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Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

Because competitors exist

Not really. And forcing all of your unwanted/toxic subreddits to Reddit clones only damns them from ever gaining traction.

Take a look: https://voat.co/

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

#62
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They officially announced this three months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/f8y9nx/sprin... > Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities will receive automated warnings, followed by further consequences like a temporary or permanent suspension. We hope this will encourage healthier behavior across these communities. Until now that has mostly been warnings…

Full message: > I’d like to share an update about our thinking around quarantined communities. > When we expanded our quarantine policy, we created an appeals process for sanctioned communities. One of the goals was to “force subscribers to reconsider their behavior and incentivize moderators to make changes.” While the policy attempted to hold moderators more accountable for enforcing healthier rules and norms, it d…

One of the easiest reasons is the order of these things: post being made, post being upvoted, post being recognized as tos violation

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

#63

There is an alternative to the group think/hive mind called https://gab.com/ but it’s also a cesspool or horrible people sharing horrible ideas. Not sure what makes sense.

It continuously baffles me that some people don't learn from unmoderated online communities. They become dens of bigotry, doxing, attack mobs, racism, misogyny. Saying your site is driven only by "free speech" is the cowardly reply that refuses to stand up to these things.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

#64
There seems to be a divide between people who think discourse is a progressive art of the exchange of ideas, and those who use language as a pretext for political struggle where the role of ideas is to act as provocations that yield a persons "true," alignment and identity. The latter view means engaging ideas compromises your ethical purity, where the former one means people can express abhorrent ideas without physical consequences.

There isn't a short answer to what's probably an eternal conflict, but I do know a lot of people in tech who might benefit from reflecting on the question of, "are we the baddies?"

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

#65

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

The missing component of your thought process is who, exactly, deems subreddits not worthy of existence. Many people view pornography as an extremely damaging problem and addiction, would you want all 18+ subreddits removes because somebody “can’t think of a single honest reason for them existing”?

> who, exactly, deems subreddits not worthy of existence.

That would be the company which owns reddit, through the admins. Is it fair? No, it isn't, but reddit has no requirement to be fair (although it would be nice if it was).

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Reddit admin message: > Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s). >> You recently upvoted a post or comment that was determined to be against our policies. Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it. Please be thoughful about the content that you interact with. Interestingly nothing in the Reddit policies seems to mention voting…

This is super stupid. If they're so against the content why allow it to exist in the first place?

Whether they intended it this way or not, users will now be worried they're upvoting the "wrong" thing and will be less likely to vote unpopular opinions and political views, just in case.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it’s also a cesspool or horrible people sharing horrible ideas. I tend to follow Voltaire's ‘I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.' I agree with your assessment of the quality of ideas thrown around there, but I'd prefer a world where the internet allowed sites like that to exist, rather than one that's increasingly owned & distributed by giant corporate conglomerates wi…

There's nothing wrong with Reddit not wanting to facilitate and provide a platform for that sort of content, though. It's a massively popular site with mainstream appeal. They don't want to let that popularity and audience be taken advantage of to spread ideas that are hateful and likely to incite violence. Quarantined subreddits are dumb, but it's a sign that their afraid of the backlash of outright banning them - t…

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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

#68
post #27

Reddit has been compromised with actors who do not have free speech in their best interest. The other day there was an illuminating ask reddit post about transexuals who decided to transition back and their experiences. That post got promptly removed by moderators; even though there was no hateful content within it at all. They effectively silenced the transexual population due to an ever so slight conflict of ideolo…

Transexual is a porn term and derogitory. Transgender is preferred. Thanks.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

#69
post #8

Eventually reddit will go the way of digg and fade into irrelevance.

I read digg multiple times a day. It is far better than it was over a decade ago. As an aggregator, it is nearly perfectly aligned with my interests (except for the year they spent heavily promoting Jimmy Fallon).

That doesn't really say anything.

I read CNN multiple times a day.

As a news site, it is nearly perfectly aligned with my interests.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

#70

An obvious concern of this would be just silencing content which isn't violent or morally wrong but just not wanted in a large commercially viable website. This is obviously polarizing but something I'll be watching is what happens to /r/chapotraphouse. CTH has some posts that violated a rule but most don't, the admins claim their quarantining was never well communicated and intentionally vague, posting screenshots o…

>CTH has some posts that violated a rule but most don't

I'm not familiar with the CTH situation, or super familiar with CTH in general besides knowing them to be pretty far left on the political spectrum.

But based solely on this line, if their admins are not making enough of an effort in Reddit's eyes to clean up and discourage people from making these rule breaking posts, then the quarantine makes sense. Even if only 1% of .1% of the posts are violating the rules, if the subreddit isn't policing that small minority of posts, what is Reddit supposed to do? Ignore it because most posts aren't breaking rules?

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