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Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by vmception »

ido wrote: post #150
vmception wrote: post #148

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whats unsavory about sending messages from a popular profile and people finding that attention intriguing and less likely to ignore? not "earning" the popularity the way anyone imagined? every form of valuable popularity requires capital and external help. it has the same affect with the populous. sycophants with romantic interest are predictable.

It's dishonest. You know you're not selling what they think they are buying.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you think is happening here?

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by dang »

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #62
vmception wrote: post #54

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> Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day. In my instagram marketing last decade thats what we did. While others were imagining that people "buy likes", or actually were dealing with bots, we were doing this for our clients. Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently…

I just vomited a little in my mouth

Please don't do this here.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by naasking »

goblin89 wrote: post #126
naasking wrote: post #123

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> The difference is, in our culture as it is now Apple can’t possibly take damage from such a statement, while women regularly suffer violence from men. So your counterfactual claim is that if statements about about women "scheming" didn't exist, violence against women would be lower? That seems like a pretty strong causal claim when all we have is correlative data. It could simply be that the people who are violent…

TL;DR yes to your first sentence, pretty much? I believe that (A) discovering what is considered normal in one’s community influences what one thinks, and (B) what one thinks is not disconnected from what one does . The trap of entitlement is easy to fall into, and if a statement can be interpreted in a way that implies you are owed something and deprived of it by a group who can provide it (that group already having…

> I believe that (A) discovering what is considered normal in one’s community influences what one thinks, and (B) what one thinks is not disconnected from what one does.

It hasn't been considered "normal" to inflict violence on women for decades, so that's not really the context under discussion. The question is, under present circumstances in which domestic violence is a huge no-no, and everyone knows it's unacceptable, would the absence of comments about "scheming women" really prevent or reduce such violence?

Frankly, that's a tough sell.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by goblin89 »

naasking wrote: post #153
goblin89 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TL;DR yes to your first sentence, pretty much? I believe that (A) discovering what is considered normal in one’s community influences what one thinks, and (B) what one thinks is not disconnected from what one does . The trap of entitlement is easy to fall into, and if a statement can be interpreted in a way that implies you are owed something and deprived of it by a group who can provide it (that group already having…

> I believe that (A) discovering what is considered normal in one’s community influences what one thinks, and (B) what one thinks is not disconnected from what one does. It hasn't been considered "normal" to inflict violence on women for decades, so that's not really the context under discussion. The question is, under present circumstances in which domestic violence is a huge no-no, and everyone knows it's unaccepta…

There are communities in which it is considered normal and/or advocated. If you read the link, you would be astonished that such communities could be found as close as on Reddit until end of last year.

In many (most?) parts of the world, for a woman walking alone after dark to see a group of men approaching often means to fear for her safety or life; in domestic conflicts women take much, much more damage from men than the reverse, the statistics are readily available.

If you consider “I don’t think it’s normal, so I don’t care what others say or write” a viable position in this context, then we disagree and I hope you will change your mind.

Generalizations, misattribution of intent and other biases against a disadvantaged group may exist in someone’s head, but when vocally expressed in a community they have the power to exacerbate an already difficult situation; especially if the majority of said community belongs to the very group that historically caused the disadvantage of the former group. (This is not limited to men vs. women or gender in general.)

It is worth phrasing things in a neutral way, even if it takes more words.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by naasking »

goblin89 wrote: post #154
naasking wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I believe that (A) discovering what is considered normal in one’s community influences what one thinks, and (B) what one thinks is not disconnected from what one does. It hasn't been considered "normal" to inflict violence on women for decades, so that's not really the context under discussion. The question is, under present circumstances in which domestic violence is a huge no-no, and everyone knows it's unaccepta…

There are communities in which it is considered normal and/or advocated. If you read the link, you would be astonished that such communities could be found as close as on Reddit until end of last year. In many (most?) parts of the world, for a woman walking alone after dark to see a group of men approaching often means to fear for her safety or life; in domestic conflicts women take much, much more damage from men th…

Everything you've pointed out is common knowledge in the developed world, which is what we're talking about. These communities you speak of aren't created by the language to which you're objecting, they create that language.

You're confusing cause and effect, which was my initial point. If those objectionable statements did not previously exist, incels and others would create them. This is why policing language is stupid. It's a symptom not a cause, and focusing on the language as the problem also punishes people who would never abuse another person.

Comedians run into this wall all the time. No one's going to hear a racy joke and then think it's suddenly ok to go assault someone. Even if someone were contemplating assault, the joke wouldn't be some "final straw" that drives them to do it, and trying to classify it as such simply ignores the real underlying issues.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by goblin89 »

naasking wrote: post #155
goblin89 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are communities in which it is considered normal and/or advocated. If you read the link, you would be astonished that such communities could be found as close as on Reddit until end of last year. In many (most?) parts of the world, for a woman walking alone after dark to see a group of men approaching often means to fear for her safety or life; in domestic conflicts women take much, much more damage from men th…

Everything you've pointed out is common knowledge in the developed world, which is what we're talking about. These communities you speak of aren't created by the language to which you're objecting, they create that language. You're confusing cause and effect, which was my initial point. If those objectionable statements did not previously exist, incels and others would create them. This is why policing language is st…

I don’t understand your point, or why you’re still making it.

The language one uses cannot influence the mindset of another person? Providing avenues to advocate for certain behavior should not be expected to increase the incidence of that behavior?

Then we have disagreed back here:

> I believe that (A) discovering what is considered normal in one’s community influences what one thinks, and (B) what one thinks is not disconnected from what one does.

and we will continue disagreeing.

I hope eventually you will change your mind, but I’m not prepared to (nor expecting to be able to) argue you into that.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by keeganpoppen »

koheripbal wrote: post #89
keeganpoppen wrote: post #79

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not to mention that you get what you deserve wrt. the outcomes / kind of people this attracts. honestly, seems like good matchmaking to me-- shallow meets shallow.

If it works for him, that's his business. No one asked for your judgements.

agreed. i don't view people like him as competition at all, as their and my interests in the dating pool are nearly completely disjunct.

that said, no one ever asked for anyone's "judgements" ever-- not here, nor anywhere else. but yet they have this shiny "comment" button, and i guess i just can't help myself... welcome to an online forum, where people share judgments (among other things).

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by namanyayg »

vmception wrote: post #131
namanyayg wrote: post #103

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What content category are these accounts posting in?

Travel & Lifestyle Models / Scantily clad women Celebrity Fanpages Funny, Memes (quotes overlaying images) Motivation (derivative of travel & lifestyle but with quotes overlaying the images) Fitness (derivative of motivation) Oh yeah, I run my own fanpages for my own pages. lol. Thats another technique. Fanpages are just downgraded main pages when another account grows up or is acquired in the similar category (and r…

That's down right amazing. I've been working on a software to get and repost images to a suite of IG accounts using InstaPy, but IG has too many account blocks and throttles.

You have shared some very insightful information here -- especially about buying accounts and engagement rates. And have definitely executed something that I have only thought of.

I'm working with a client right now to find influencers in 1m+ range to do 24h posts for their apps. Maybe I'll get to retry automation soon.

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