Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#2Reddit admin message:
> Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s).
>> You recently upvoted a post or comment that was determined to be against our policies. Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it. Please be thoughful about the content that you interact with.
Interestingly nothing in the Reddit policies seems to mention voting or engaging with content: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy
Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#4Reddit admin message: > Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s). >> You recently upvoted a post or comment that was determined to be against our policies. Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it. Please be thoughful about the content that you interact with. Interestingly nothing in the Reddit policies seems to mention voting…
As well, punishing someone for Engagement without malice, which you later determined to violate policy to, is a bit obtuse.
Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#5This isn't a ban, it's a 3 day suspension. And we don't know what content was upvoted, or why it was a against Reddit policy. We do know, however, that Reddit indeed has policies about acceptable content, and most of us seem to agree they're fairly reasonable. So I don't understand the use of the scare quotes in the title.
Why exactly should an upvote, which is publicly visible approval, be different than a comment? I mean... they're both content posted to the site. It's not unreasonable that they be subject to the same rules.
Is the outrage here that votes are supposed to be "anonymous" and this feels like an unmasking of something people felt more comfortable doing "in private"? Is that something we want to protect per se?
This seems like more outrage than meat, honestly. I'd really like to know what the comment was before deciding.
Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#6So, if people don't vote the way the Reddit admins want, the Reddit admins will replace the voters. That is definitely a way to get only the things the Reddit admins want upvoted, upvoted. But it seems to me to be the opposite of free discourse.
I can sympathise with the admins, because a) there are a lot of terrible, toxic people b) there are a lot of bot armies. The latter is probably easiest to combat, but it is still a tough nut to crack. The former is even worse: I imagine that the most engaged users are quite often the users one wishes were least engaged.
It's a tough problem, but Orwellian punishment of wrongthink seems the wrong direction.
Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#7Reddit admin message: > Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s). >> You recently upvoted a post or comment that was determined to be against our policies. Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it. Please be thoughful about the content that you interact with. Interestingly nothing in the Reddit policies seems to mention voting…
They officially announced this three months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/f8y9nx/sprin...
> Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities will receive automated warnings, followed by further consequences like a temporary or permanent suspension. We hope this will encourage healthier behavior across these communities.
Until now that has mostly been warnings for posting in "bad" subs. Now after most of those are gone I guess it's time for the next phase.
Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#8Eventually reddit will go the way of digg and fade into irrelevance.
Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#9This isn't a ban, it's a 3 day suspension. And we don't know what content was upvoted, or why it was a against Reddit policy. We do know, however, that Reddit indeed has policies about acceptable content, and most of us seem to agree they're fairly reasonable. So I don't understand the use of the scare quotes in the title. Why exactly should an upvote, which is publicly visible approval, be different than a comment?…
The title wasn't meant to be a scare. The quote from Reddit is "against out policies" which was changed to "against their policies". I believe that's fair. And they already announced that these bans will be permanent in the announcement way back (see other comment for link)
Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”
#10So, if people don't vote the way the Reddit admins want, the Reddit admins will replace the voters. That is definitely a way to get only the things the Reddit admins want upvoted, upvoted. But it seems to me to be the opposite of free discourse. I can sympathise with the admins, because a) there are a lot of terrible, toxic people b) there are a lot of bot armies. The latter is probably easiest to combat, but it is s…
Eh but there's a couple reasons in my mind why this might be reasonable.
First, Reddit isn't a 1st Amendment platform; they make the site, they make the rules. Like it or not, that's how it is today.
Second, you have to stop toxicity somewhere; there are a few universal goods we can generally agree upon, things like abuse of animals, underage content, etc. and as long as the slope isn't too slippery beyond that, I think this is an acceptable form of moderation.