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Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by meej »

Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

The best way to protect the health of the employees who cannot work remotely is for those who can to stay home. It's appalling that your employer doesn't seem to understand this.

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Post by flak48 »

levesque wrote: post #7
OldFatCactus wrote: post #3

A friend that works there told me that they have been polling their employees for strong feelings around going permanently remote

I have strong feelings against permanently remote. I feel like this hasn't been fully thought out. Face to face interaction is much more high bandwidth than remote video calls (in other words, it conveys more information). Not to mention that this transfers the costs of office space to the employee, maybe this is why all employers are quick to jump on this bandwagon. Curious to see where this new trend will fall in 2…

Many companies have been reimbursing home internet and electricity bills since March. Mine even paid for an chair, desk, monitor and lamp of my choosing for my home office.

I hope this becomes the norm if remote becomes mainstream

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Post by scruple »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #13
r00fus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it make sense to name & shame these bad actors?

In the current climate, we need less not more of this.

There's a world of difference between what some 13 year old said on Twitter in 2011 and how a business actively treats it's employees today.

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Post by jmalicki »

elicash wrote: post #19

Here's a photo of the newsroom so you can get a sense of the degree to which they work in proximity: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/12/18/opinion/sunday/18...

So unlike a modern tech company, they sit farther apart and at least have barriers between their desks?

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Post by wahlrus »

levesque wrote: post #7
OldFatCactus wrote: post #3

A friend that works there told me that they have been polling their employees for strong feelings around going permanently remote

I have strong feelings against permanently remote. I feel like this hasn't been fully thought out. Face to face interaction is much more high bandwidth than remote video calls (in other words, it conveys more information). Not to mention that this transfers the costs of office space to the employee, maybe this is why all employers are quick to jump on this bandwagon. Curious to see where this new trend will fall in 2…

I don't think you're wrong. There will certainly be some sort of correction of the bullish remote-work spirit.

But the 2020 lockdowns will fundamentally increase the amount of remote work permanently to at least some degree.

Like how before Bernie Sanders ran for president, no one in mainstream US politics was even talking about socialized healthcare. Or how before Andrew Yang, no one outside of silicon valley had ever heard of UBI.

This is hyperbole, but you see what I mean.

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Post by [deleted] »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #9
Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

> Wow, I guess I'll just tell my team you want them to die and they should find another job This is what I told my boss when these orders came down... they are still deciding what to do. Edit: Be aware, I have enough emergency savings for around 3 years worth of fuck it. I'm not you and you should not be me.

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Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by [deleted] »

praiseDang wrote: post #18
code4tee wrote: post #4

This seems to be the norm for many companies. Everyone is throwing in the towel on 2020 so far as the office goes with the goal to take a fresh look for 2021 at the end of this year. Many will likely never go back to the setup they had before. If you’re in the market for commercial office space you can probably get some killer deals moving forward.

I remember getting downvotes for mentioning the lockdowns are going to either last 2 years or it will be a waste of effort. The benefit of science is that I was correct, the negative of the internet is that popularity rules.

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Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by Krasnol »

elicash wrote: post #19

Here's a photo of the newsroom so you can get a sense of the degree to which they work in proximity: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/12/18/opinion/sunday/18...

What a nightmare.

Now imagine half of them being on the phone....terrible.

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by purple_ferret »

OldFatCactus wrote: post #3

A friend that works there told me that they have been polling their employees for strong feelings around going permanently remote

The New York Times Building is nice but it's a terrible (although generally convenient) location
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