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Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by Loughla »

r00fus wrote: post #6
Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

Does it make sense to name & shame these bad actors?

The issue is, I know I would be fired, and cannot afford to lose this job. There is no one hiring in the area, and we're geographically locked due to factors around my child that I don't care to get into here.

So, the answer is yes, but there is no way to do that without losing my health insurance, and probably home. So that's neat.

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by jes5199 »

Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

companies who ask their employees to take risks with their health, without a compelling reason, are destroying any sense of goodwill or morale. In the short term, that change might be invisible, but over the long-term it destroys businesses

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by agensaequivocum »

r00fus wrote: post #6
Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

Does it make sense to name & shame these bad actors?

In the current climate, we need less not more of this.

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by cbron »

umwbk9gagy wrote: post #2

I've always assumed most writers for these papers don't actually come into the office anyway. What's different? They're extending that to full time staff as well?

Yes. I worked for a major newspaper and would guess that all the people in editorial make up less than 50% of the staff. You have business, accounting, tech, delivery, support, sales, security etc...

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by zaphod12 »

Loughla wrote: post #11
r00fus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it make sense to name & shame these bad actors?

The issue is, I know I would be fired, and cannot afford to lose this job. There is no one hiring in the area, and we're geographically locked due to factors around my child that I don't care to get into here. So, the answer is yes, but there is no way to do that without losing my health insurance, and probably home. So that's neat.

No idea what you do, but a lot of companies are newly open to full-time remote employees, fwiw. Sounds like you work for jerks.

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by praiseDang »

Loughla wrote: post #11
r00fus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it make sense to name & shame these bad actors?

The issue is, I know I would be fired, and cannot afford to lose this job. There is no one hiring in the area, and we're geographically locked due to factors around my child that I don't care to get into here. So, the answer is yes, but there is no way to do that without losing my health insurance, and probably home. So that's neat.

If you don't mind, what is your comorbidity?

Are you old or obese? Or some other health condition?

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by praiseDang »

code4tee wrote: post #4

This seems to be the norm for many companies. Everyone is throwing in the towel on 2020 so far as the office goes with the goal to take a fresh look for 2021 at the end of this year. Many will likely never go back to the setup they had before. If you’re in the market for commercial office space you can probably get some killer deals moving forward.

I remember getting downvotes for mentioning the lockdowns are going to either last 2 years or it will be a waste of effort.

The benefit of science is that I was correct, the negative of the internet is that popularity rules.

Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by coldpie »

Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

> They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely.

But, this only increases the risk for those who actually do have to go in. Everyone should be vocally opposed to this policy, including (especially?) those to whom this policy is supposed to be "fair."

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