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Why would it mean that?
Presumably because they could then run iOS applications.
That basically already exists in the form of Catalyst.
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Re: First Arm Macs: 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Redesigned iMac; Late 2020 or Early 2021
#42I can't wait to see how the price and power compares to the Intel Macs.
Given that my iPhone's A11 Bionic beats my desktop's i5-7400 on Geekbench's single-core benchmark, I would expect that a newer desktop-optimized Apple chip would destroy most Intel laptop chips.
Re: First Arm Macs: 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Redesigned iMac; Late 2020 or Early 2021
#43Often when Apple shifts the rest of the industry follows within 5 years (touch screen smart phones, ultrabooks, high DPI displays). Although Apple has done architecture shifts before with no impact to the rest of the industry (68k -> PPC -> Intel), I wonder if this will be different. I read in another thread that volume is what propelled x86s popularity. Intel’s difficulty with 10nm has created an opening for other f…
It's nice to see Apple following Microsoft's lead hopefully they have something as nice as the Surface Pro X to put on display
If it’s not better than the Surface Pro X they are doomed.
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Windows 10 ARM is so useless that there's really no reason to Boot Camp it.
But what if someone wants to Boot Camp ARM Linux ?
Boot Camp does not work with Linux on Intel Macs, so the question in this case would be whether the low-level bootloader would allow unsigned/third-party code or whether it would be locked-down like on iOS devices.
Re: First Arm Macs: 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Redesigned iMac; Late 2020 or Early 2021
#45Can anyone explain why Apple would be dropping Intel and doing ARM instead, instead of just, you know, doing their own thing ? I find it hard to believe either that ARM is the (globally optimal) pinnacle of instruction set / CPU architecture possible, and that a $1tn company can afford to spin up its own CPU production line (competitor to Intel, a $250b company) but not its own CPU design department (competitor to AR…
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Re: First Arm Macs: 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Redesigned iMac; Late 2020 or Early 2021
#46I wonder what docker looks like on iARM. I assume some level of x86 emulation provided by OSX that VirtualBox will run on top
Re: First Arm Macs: 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Redesigned iMac; Late 2020 or Early 2021
#47Can anyone explain why Apple would be dropping Intel and doing ARM instead, instead of just, you know, doing their own thing ? I find it hard to believe either that ARM is the (globally optimal) pinnacle of instruction set / CPU architecture possible, and that a $1tn company can afford to spin up its own CPU production line (competitor to Intel, a $250b company) but not its own CPU design department (competitor to AR…
Apple effectively has its own proprietary ARM designs, best in the world, and production relationships with chip manufacturers to make them in huge volume. Dumping that for some clean sheet of paper design without real world customers, tool chains, and manufacturing to try to gain a tiny percent in performance and/or cost would be immensely foolish.
It’s been speculated Apple could even license the x86 instruction set to include a x86 coprocessor in every one of their designs.
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#48I suppose now that Edge is cross platform there's less need to spin up a windows VM to test in IE/Old Edge.
I do worry about software that is highly tuned with hand-rolled assembly (looking at you various video/photo/audio processing apps) and if this is going to be another transition that is mostly seamless, but with enough edge cases to leave people slightly bloodied.
Re: First Arm Macs: 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Redesigned iMac; Late 2020 or Early 2021
#49What is the advantage (for Apple) of the ARM CPU over the Intels? Is it power? Instructions-per-watt? Or just the ability to control one's destiny?
Performance per watt is the biggest advantage, Apple will get fast laptops with extremely long battery life. Cost per performance is a very close second, ARM CPUs are a fraction of the cost of Intel CPUs.
It’s also speculated that with active cooling ARM will enable high performance Macs at a lower price point. It’s very unclear how well they will be able to match AMD and Intel at the highest performance levels.
Re: First Arm Macs: 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Redesigned iMac; Late 2020 or Early 2021
#50>Starting in 2021, Kuo says that all new Mac models will be equipped with Apple processors, and that it will take 12 to 18 months for Apple to transition to an all-Arm lineup.
So there's not going to be a Xeon Mac Pro in 2023? Are they just going to drop the Mac Pro or do they actually have a rivaling ARM processor?