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Re: Firefox 4 is here

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post #38

I started using Firefox again the day I heard about the 4.0 Release Candidate, and thought I could give it a another try after it failed to convince me the few times I tried to use it in the past. I was pleasently surprised. The browser's way faster; launching it doesn't take that much time; the UI is way more responsive; and all the add-ons I've been using in the past are compatible with 4.0 (Web Developer, Firebug,…

What did you prefer from FF that wasn't in Opera?

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Count me impressed. I use netbooks a lot and FF4 gave me the best browsing experience I've ever tried on a 10"-screen, Atom-CPU powered PC. Performance improvements and the amount of space it saves on a small screen for my usage are pretty amazing. Kudos Mozilla for another great release! EDIT: Just noticed that FF4 allows me to resize text-fields that render quite small because of the small screen. Small, relative-s…

I'm on a netbook too (old one: 901), and FF is my preferred desktop/dev browser, but Runfield is unplayably slow in FF4(2-3fps maybe) on my netbook, whereas Chrome (10.0.6b) feels like it's hitting 15-20fps.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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post #269

Very nice, the UI is well designed, more screen estate. Just 2 complaints: - The colors's arrows for previous/next are not really visible - When on a laptop, I used to open a link in a new tab by right click + open in a new tab. This option was the second one in the previous firefox's version, now it's the first, so I end up opening a lot of links in new window instead of new tab, guess it's only a matter of time til…

There's an extension called "Menu Editor" that allows you to edit the context menus in Firefox. It works, but it can be confusing to use, because the context menus are... so contextual. In your case though, you could just swap the places of the "New Window" and "New Tab" menu items. Edit: here's a link to the extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/menu-editor/

Thanks for the info and the link!

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Most customization points is the big win for me. I REALLY like to alter my browsers to fit my preferred layout and FF has done quite well at maintaining that capability for me. I get into Chrome and I find myself constantly going "Oh, there's no option for that... Oh, there's no option for that... Oh, there's no option for that... " to the point I close it in frustration yet again.

Absolutely. You would never be able to do something like http://conkeror.org in Chrome. At one point I tried to change some key bindings in Chrome, and I had to spend 2 hours recompiling the whole thing; it was an absolute nightmare.

In fairness, isn't Conkeror more of a fork of Firefox than an extension (though I believe it started as an extension)?

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Disclaimer: I am a Firefox Fanboi At work I can only use Firefox or IE so no brainer there - I use Firefox. At home I use Firefox but generally have Chrome open to play the odd Facebook game. The thing that puzzles me is I really don't notice any difference in performance between Chrome and Firefox and never have. I have a 4mb internet connection at the moment but noticed nothing different when I had 8. The only reas…

If flash crashes, it only crashes out one tab. That's the killer feature for me with chrome.

Is that something new? When flash shockwave crashes (on Windows 7 at least) it takes down all instances of flash in Chrome (for me anyway). Please tell me I'm wrong or that this has changed.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

#336
post #38

I started using Firefox again the day I heard about the 4.0 Release Candidate, and thought I could give it a another try after it failed to convince me the few times I tried to use it in the past. I was pleasently surprised. The browser's way faster; launching it doesn't take that much time; the UI is way more responsive; and all the add-ons I've been using in the past are compatible with 4.0 (Web Developer, Firebug,…

Disclaimer: I am a Firefox Fanboi At work I can only use Firefox or IE so no brainer there - I use Firefox. At home I use Firefox but generally have Chrome open to play the odd Facebook game. The thing that puzzles me is I really don't notice any difference in performance between Chrome and Firefox and never have. I have a 4mb internet connection at the moment but noticed nothing different when I had 8. The only reas…

For me it was the speed of Chrome that made me switch. On Windows, Chrome opens faster than notepad. It's literally the fastest starting app I have.

Firefox is quite the opposite.

The difference was enough for me to forgo the whole list of extensions that I used in Firefox (this was before Chrome even had extensions)

I switched about a couple of years ago - maybe things have improved since.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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> In Google's case, I find young, smart, cool people just like me who I trust not to be dicks and do things with my stuff I wouldn't want them to. Not too long ago, "Google fires employee for snooping on users" - http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/16/business/la-fi-googl...

One in thousands. Like I said: people make mistakes. It doesn't bother me that we're dealing with human beings who aren't perfect; better this than the big brother corporation with an agenda.

> One in thousands.

What if that one person is one who thinks "if you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place"[1], and who just happens to be the CEO of the company? Would you still trust the company totally?

What the head honcho of the company says _is_ its agenda.

I love Google for the cool things they have done and continue to do. But it does get scary to think how big they have become.

[1] http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/48975

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Is Flash not installed by default?

Downloaded FF4 and several sites won't display.

Ex: Youtube says "You need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to watch this video."

Other sites just don't work.

Maybe I'm out of loop and need to update my desktop flash.

Man, chrome has ruined me with its auto-updating.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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post #200

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Seems like all my previous addons that were used to improve firefox UI have been incorporated into 4.0. Very glad that Vimperator works, the main reason I use firefox. I wouldn't have upgraded if it did not.

You might want to look into https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pentadactyl/ . The description says it's "the next generation of Vimperator by its primary developers". Sounds like Vimperator will stop working sometime soon.

Ive been looking into the addons and both of them have the same update date, whats the difference? they look the same to me (I havent installed both of them since vimperator works well :P )

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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post #330

I am surprised that they got rid of the padlock icon. I had to Google before I realized that they now use a colored section with the site name in the address bar to show a secure connection. Not very obvious when you first start using it. I wonder if this change is going to be disruptive for users who are trained to look for a padlock icon.

This is an intentional change because we believe the padlock icon is misleading and potentially harmful. Users were being told to "look for the padlock" as a sign that a transaction was secure, when really it means no such thing.

It's important that users actually verify the identity of the site -- a "secure" (encrypted) transaction is no good if it's a secure connection to a malicious site. The new security UI in Firefox is designed to emphasize identity, rather than just encryption.

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