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Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Looking for fiber in London next month. I guess VM won't be it. Reddit seems to think Hyperoptic is where it's at. With VM as second. That's on raw speed front. So if VM can't be trusted I guess I need to apartment hunt by Hyper...sigh.

When I was searching for a new flat, I was worried about the lack of fibre.

My new flat is connected to DSL, which has 70Mbps which is enough for 4K HD streaming and practically enough for everything. Even Stadia plays smoothly. Not perfect, but agreeing on DSL option gives much more freedom to choose a flat.

Good luck with looking for a place to live!

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Nothing is harder than cancelling internet service, with the possible exception of cancelling a gym membership. In order to cancel Mediacom's 'service,' I had to send a letter[1] to them, with copies to their general counsel, threatening 99 kinds of lawsuit. I made the letter intentionally deranged, complete with footnotes about financial BDSM, to give them the impression that I would actually do it. They cancelled t…

It is astounding that things escalated to this point within two weeks of you signing up.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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They told me I couldn't cancel in advance, I had to ring the month before I wanted the service cut, otherwise I'd cancel and it would end at the end of the month.

When I rang during that month, they then told me I had to give a month's notice and would be charged for an extra month.

Took me a few hours of phone calls to eventually get that dropped.

A good consumer protection law would be some requirement that cancelling a service is similar in friction to signing up for that service (obviously vague, but you get my point). You shouldn't be allowed to require a phone call to cancel a service.

Oh, this was also while I was in Cambridge and I was getting dial-up speeds regularly on my fibre line because they were so oversubscribed, while I was still getting leaflets through the door telling me to sign up for their service. It shouldn't be legal to advertise a service you don't have the capacity to actually provide, and still take people's money for it.

I remember one time I rang about it, explained and the guy went "I'll just look up and see if we have any congestion issues". After a few seconds, I heard him go "holy shit" away from the receiver, then come back to me and just start apologising and saying he could see why I'd have a problem.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Nothing is harder than cancelling internet service, with the possible exception of cancelling a gym membership. In order to cancel Mediacom's 'service,' I had to send a letter[1] to them, with copies to their general counsel, threatening 99 kinds of lawsuit. I made the letter intentionally deranged, complete with footnotes about financial BDSM, to give them the impression that I would actually do it. They cancelled t…

That whole ordeal sounds horrifying. What is it about cable/internet companies that seems to make them awful across the board?

They are monopolies that aren't regulated as utilities and have zero competition from the public sector.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I’m not sure what that fuss is about. I just stop paying whenever I run into these kind of issues. It’s easier than what people think. I wanted to cancel my gym membership and they wouldn’t let me before I finished my year membership. So I just stopped paying. Some numbers were calling me but I never answer unknown numbers.

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Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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When I cancelled my home braodband contract a while ago (because I was moving), I eventually ended up with a debt collector after me because they had kept billing me. They had also disconnected me, connected someone else at the same property with the same cable, billed them and been paid by them, so they were not only billing me after I had cancelled, they were billing twice for the same connection. I tried csalling…

> I eventually got it resolved by finding the number for the CEO's secretary or someone, and harassing them about it until they got it sorted.

You should post said number publicly so others can cancel more easily.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Nothing is harder than cancelling internet service, with the possible exception of cancelling a gym membership. In order to cancel Mediacom's 'service,' I had to send a letter[1] to them, with copies to their general counsel, threatening 99 kinds of lawsuit. I made the letter intentionally deranged, complete with footnotes about financial BDSM, to give them the impression that I would actually do it. They cancelled t…

This is an anti-pattern that some companies follow. I remember trying to cancel an account from a grocery delivery service. There was no option online to cancel the subscription. The only option was to call them during their working hours which were different from mine because we were in different time zones. After waiting for 30mins I finally got connected to a human on the other side. They tried pressure sales tactics to get me to continue with the service even though I made it clear that I did not need their service anymore. The call itself took about 30 minutes. This is such an egregious waste of my time just to cancel a frickin subscription. These services cost actual money. On the other hand, there are "free" newsletters which hide their unsubscription button under layers of pages and clicks. It's a good thing gmail provides an "unsubscribe" button on the top. There should be a service which basically manages all your subscriptions(bits/bytes & atoms/molecules) in one place and allows you to activate/deactivate them. I would definitely pay for such a service. Or a website which ranks services based on ease of use, cost, cancelling headaches, most important clauses in their terms of use etc.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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post #36

Looking for fiber in London next month. I guess VM won't be it. Reddit seems to think Hyperoptic is where it's at. With VM as second. That's on raw speed front. So if VM can't be trusted I guess I need to apartment hunt by Hyper...sigh.

See if Andrews & Arnolds would work wherever you move to. I've been with them for a few months now and don't think I'll want to switch anyone else afterwards.

https://www.aa.net.uk/

Checking an address on their website will require active BT phone line at the address, but if you call them up they can check the area for you (I did that).

I was asking their salesperson about static IPs addresses and all sorts. Answered every single one of my question with legit technical information.

I was actually speechless at the end of the first call. Was the first time I've spoken to an ISP and had all of my questions answered.

Didn't want a phone line and they didn't require one, 300GB usage as standard per month (can be upped to 2TB for a tenner I think?). They dont filter content on their network either. Speeds are decent enough for one person on FTTC (just got 70Mbps). And apparently they purchase above and beyond the capacity they might need from openreach to avoid peak time drains on the network (I've experienced none).

They also do FTTP as well. Or there's the G.Fast option which seems to be new (wasn't there when I ordered).

One of the things that still amazes me - they send me an pgp signed email whenever my internet connection drops, and another when it comes back online. If it's dropped overnight, I wake up to an email about it!

Then there's the amazing logs which you can see about your order. I can actually see the status of any issues relating to my account -- including what openreach may have logged about it!

Had a dodgy moment when initially setting up the router (unexpected downtime on their end).

Called support and they answered straight away - and it turned out to be the person I was emailing when purchasing my order! Knew I was doing set up, quickly checked logs and we got it all worked out.

No major issues since then. Only issue is the socket in my flat, but that's an openreach engineer job.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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The thing that kills me with these stories (and if you read the comments there's plenty more) is that customers _remember_. I'll never use Videotron again after the crap they put me through when I cancelled.

I'd love to blame monopolies (sure, pick the other guys, but you'll be back in a few years when they piss you off) but the other big offender here is gym memberships, and there's no shortage of choice there. I think there's at least 4 different brands within a 5 minute drive of my house.

Consumer protection laws should be: You can cancel anywhere you can sign up. You allow new signups online, over the phone, and mall kiosks? Great, you also allow cancellations online, over the phone, and mall kiosks.

When adding a customer exit survey to our cancellation workflow the hard and fast requirements were "you cancel first, you need to understand that the cancellation has been completed. Then we can show you the survey". Don't be jerks, then hopefully people will remember you fondly if they need you later.

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