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Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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> It is known from the growing evidence base that a low carb approach can help put type 2 diabetes into remissio, and now experts are exploring its impact on type 1 diabetes. > showed the benefits of low carb treatment among adult men with newly-diagnosed type 1 diabetes. The three men were aged between 36 and 40 years old at diagnosis. First off, spelling error this soon (remissio) raises red flags, but yes, type 1…

You can get diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at any age. It used to be called "juvenile diabetes" because they thought it only hit children, but that was proven to be false.

We don't know if it's different causes in adults vs children, because we don't really know the cause. The mechanism is the same though: the immune system destroying the beta cells in the pancreas.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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I'm a type 1 diabetic and find these articles and studies frustrating. Or at least the way people interpret them. > Two weeks after adopting the low carb approach insulin was no longer needed. After 18 months insulin therapy was once again required at low doses of around 16 units per day. HbA1c remained very well controlled on the LCHF diet with insulin. So during the honeymoon period, he was able to live without ins…

Hugely reducing insulin dosing is still probably valuable, especially for Americans since it's so expensive.

It’s not without tradeoffs. There’s a substantial overlap between T1 and CHD, and the impacts of keto on CHD in non-normal populations (hyper-responders, metabolic patients) are even more poorly understood than they are in the general population.

Lowering carbs is one thing; LCHF is an entirely different beast (and I say this both as a T1 and a T1 who tried LCHF for nearly a year).

It’s an option for some, but billing it as “remission” is going to make people think it’s a cure-all, when it’s far from that, and isn’t exactly “new” for the treatment of T1 - it’s both part of the general instruction set (“reduce carbs”) and even prior to insulin therapy, was the only treatment for T1, and it had a pretty poor success rate.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

As many have said -- cholesterol is not indicative of much, HDL can be useful but still not much. First thing I would do is study a little bit about it, I found this book very informative, The Big Fat Surprise https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/14...

I've been Keto for 18 months and it's changed my life (I've previous tried Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, Pescetarian, and a few others) -- I also got my blood tested 6 months after starting and I was in "perfect" levels according to the nurse -- but cholesterol specificaly is a terrible indicator.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

The Ketoers say this isn't a problem. That cholestorol is misunderstood, and high values are only bad if you eat high carbs. If your low carb then the high value is actually normal and healthy. But YMMV

sorry but this is bs and straight dangerous. cholesterol itself is not dangerous but the proteins that carry it in the blood stream are. That’s why LDL is bad and HDL is good (supposedly 2 types of cholesterol- but they’re not they’re two types of proteins). The LDL are the smaller ones that actually end up, in time, piercing the lumen (blood vessel wall) and causing inflammation. this is how your arteries narrow and this is how you eventually end up with heart disease.

so the LDL particles (by count not volume) are bad and whoever tells you otherwise is full of crap

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

The Ketoers say this isn't a problem. That cholestorol is misunderstood, and high values are only bad if you eat high carbs. If your low carb then the high value is actually normal and healthy. But YMMV

It's anecdotal evidence, but I know of a fairly young person who is now prescribed statins after overeating animal fat for their keto diet.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

Low carb doesn't have to mean lots of meat, cheese, and fat. Most people would have positive outcomes from a diet that is 75% whole-food, plant-based no matter what the remaining 25% is.

How could you possibly eat 75% whole-food plants on a low carb diet?

Most of them (grains, legumes, fruits and nuts to a certain extent) would fall under high carb when eaten in those quantities

For me (and generally I'd say), low carb is <50g of carbs per day.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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> It is known from the growing evidence base that a low carb approach can help put type 2 diabetes into remissio, and now experts are exploring its impact on type 1 diabetes. > showed the benefits of low carb treatment among adult men with newly-diagnosed type 1 diabetes. The three men were aged between 36 and 40 years old at diagnosis. First off, spelling error this soon (remissio) raises red flags, but yes, type 1…

It's less common but it happens. My dad was diagnosed in his thirties. I remember him going from being slightly overweight to essentially a skeleton in just a few months.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Low carb doesn't have to mean lots of meat, cheese, and fat. Most people would have positive outcomes from a diet that is 75% whole-food, plant-based no matter what the remaining 25% is.

How could you possibly eat 75% whole-food plants on a low carb diet? Most of them (grains, legumes, fruits and nuts to a certain extent) would fall under high carb when eaten in those quantities For me (and generally I'd say), low carb is <50g of carbs per day.

> How could you possibly eat 75% whole-food plants on a low carb diet?

It's basically not possible.

If you really want to eat a low carb plant based diet, you'd have to eat almost exclusively processed food like olive oil and Seitan.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Low carb doesn't have to mean lots of meat, cheese, and fat. Most people would have positive outcomes from a diet that is 75% whole-food, plant-based no matter what the remaining 25% is.

Sorry but you're just completely factually wrong. Potatoes, rice and bananas are whole-food, plant based, and are pretty much the highest carb you can go. And plants without starches and sugars simply don't have many calories at all. You can't survive on broccoli alone. If you're doing low-carb and getting the calories you need, there's no physically possibly way to get those calories except through protein and fat -…

The way you frame the third choice as "and/or fat" is disingenuous and undermines the whole comment.

Yes, vegetables are less calories dense. That doesn't mean meat/cheese/bacon have to be eaten. Just an easy example, avocado's are extremely calorie dense, and yes this means fat.

The issue I have is that you just categorize meat, cheese and fat together as if the only way to get fat is via those items, or as if fat itself were unhealthy. The second is just a myth, the first is a myth the person you are responding to is directly opposing.

It's not a great surprise that a diet restricting one of the three food macros will lean heavily on the other two groups.

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