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Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by NotHereNotThere »

jadell wrote: post #33
vbtemp wrote: post #4

I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

I'm glad you found a diet that works for you, makes you feel healthier, and has improved you QoL. But it's not a panacea, and it's certainly not a cure for type 1 diabetes.

He never mentioned it being a cure to T1D..

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by gshdg »

ardit33 wrote: post #27
shipman05 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Low carb doesn't have to mean lots of meat, cheese, and fat. Most people would have positive outcomes from a diet that is 75% whole-food, plant-based no matter what the remaining 25% is.

Plants are mostly carbs yo... well, some have more complex carbs... and some have more fat (avocados) and some have protein, but still "plant based diet" usually means complex carbs... Healthier for sure, but it can't be considered 'low carb diet'

Not a ton of carb calories in lettuce, kale, spinach, broccoli, etc. They’re mostly composed of insoluble fiber (from which ruminants can extract calories but humans can’t) and water.

A “low carb” diet doesn’t exclude high amounts of insoluble fiber. It excludes high amounts of carbohydrate calories.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by [deleted] »

shipman05 wrote: post #17
vbtemp wrote: post #4

I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

Low carb doesn't have to mean lots of meat, cheese, and fat. Most people would have positive outcomes from a diet that is 75% whole-food, plant-based no matter what the remaining 25% is.

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Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by jadell »

robocat wrote: post #34

I’ve seen a friend diagnosed with type 2 diabetes return his insulin levels to normal through diet, exercise and cutting out alcohol. It just takes more discipline than most people have. Edit: I’m presuming he had T2 because he didn’t get it as a child, but reading this thread I see T1 can be diagnosed as an adult: I did not know that. Honestly I am trying to have the same discipline myself after seeing the results,…

Type 1 and Type 2 are completely different diseases. They present similar symptoms -- which is why they're both called "diabetes" --, but their underlying causes are different.

Many T2 patients can control their blood sugar with diet.

No T1 patients can. It has nothing to do with "discipline", it's an autoimmune disease. It's actually a bit insulting to suggest it's somehow "their own fault."

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by nick0garvey »

rhinoceraptor wrote: post #35
Trasmatta wrote: post #21

I'm a type 1 diabetic and find these articles and studies frustrating. Or at least the way people interpret them. > Two weeks after adopting the low carb approach insulin was no longer needed. After 18 months insulin therapy was once again required at low doses of around 16 units per day. HbA1c remained very well controlled on the LCHF diet with insulin. So during the honeymoon period, he was able to live without ins…

Hugely reducing insulin dosing is still probably valuable, especially for Americans since it's so expensive.

It's expensive but not as bad as you'd think. I didn't have insurance for half a year, and I just called the manufacturer and got a huge discount ($200/bottle -> $35/bottle). One bottle lasts a month or so.

This was only due to not having insurance and wasn't need-based - I had earned FAANG income earlier that year and the year before.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by rantwasp »

jklehm wrote: post #22
vbtemp wrote: post #4

I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

You may be one of the unlucky "responders": https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you...

yeah. people don’t really understand that it’s not the cholesterol in food that necessarily matters - most of the cholesterol that circulates in your blood is actually produced by your liver.

also, there are different phenotypes when it comes to cholesterol. For some a LFHC diet does wonders, for others it’s a sure way to have problems down the line if you sustain it for long periods of time.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by cbanek »

> It is known from the growing evidence base that a low carb approach can help put type 2 diabetes into remissio, and now experts are exploring its impact on type 1 diabetes.

> showed the benefits of low carb treatment among adult men with newly-diagnosed type 1 diabetes. The three men were aged between 36 and 40 years old at diagnosis.

First off, spelling error this soon (remissio) raises red flags, but yes, type 1 diabetes is different than type 2, and I thought is usually diagnosed pretty young, since it is very serious. It seems like in the article the patients are aged 36-40, which seems pretty late to be diagnosed with type 1 diabetes?

Are there different causes of type 1 diabetes that can happen later in life? (and are those treated differently?)

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by heavyset_go »

vbtemp wrote: post #4

I was on a low-carb diet for a while. Loved it. Felt great. Was totally fit. All my digestive problems cleared up. I would never get "hangry". By every single subjective measure my quality of life and sense of well-being improved. Then I got my cholesterol checked during a routine blood work and it was through the roof. WTF? Anyone know better than me about this?

I'm someone with a family history of CVD, so the only way I would try a low-carb diet is if I ate food that doesn't have clinical evidence for raising cholesterol, blood pressure, etc.

That meant eating only a small amount of saturated fat, and limiting palmitic acid in particular, and only small amounts of table salt balanced with other minerals like potassium chloride.

I'd eat a lot of salad, nuts, fish, and the only additional fat I'd eat would be in form of EVOO, avocado oil or other oils high in monounsaturated fats, and some polyunsaturated fats. My blood work was always fine.

Some people think low-carb means that they get to eat bacon for every meal and drink the grease.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by jadell »

NotHereNotThere wrote: post #41
jadell wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad you found a diet that works for you, makes you feel healthier, and has improved you QoL. But it's not a panacea, and it's certainly not a cure for type 1 diabetes.

He never mentioned it being a cure to T1D..

The response is to an article about low carb diets sending diabetes patients into "remission". It's hard not to make the connection.

Re: Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of type 1 diabetes

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Post by KerryJones »

rantwasp wrote: post #40
PKop wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your assumptions about high cholesterol being bad are wrong, simple as that. Just as a few decades ago, the popular (even as agreed upon within medical industry) assumptions about "low fat" were wrong. In other words, the measurement you observed was good . Your brain needs that measured value you were tested at to be high. Your health would suffer if it wasn't. There is tons of research and discussion about this onl…

so. this is so general that it’s not helpful. what ranges are we talking about? also, when people talk about cholesterol they usually don’t mean cholesterol they mean lipi-proteins that carry the cholesterol through the blood (cholesterol needs this as it’s hydrophobic). LDL from those lipo-proteins is definitely correlated with heart disease. Here, read about it in more detail than you probably need to know: https:/…

LDL is correlated but not causative and it's been discovered that HDL is a much better indicator.

Take a look at this book: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/14...

It goes into it quite a bit more -- cholesterol is a _terrible_ indicator of overall health. This is well known in the Keto community.

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