Ghoti

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Post by marvindanig » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 AM UTC

Ghoti
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#2

Post by pickdenis » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 5:16 AM UTC

Ghoughphtheightteeau

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Post by asplake » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 8:19 AM UTC

considered harmful

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Post by livealife » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 9:09 AM UTC

One of the core problems of English language.

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Post by jdminhbg » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 7:51 PM UTC

> while ti would only resemble sh when followed by a vowel sound ("mention", "martian", "patient", "spatial").

ti isn't "sh" in "mention," it's "ch," at least in any dialect I'm aware of. Cf. slang for Twitter mentions, "menchies."

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Post by MichaelMoser123 » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 7:56 PM UTC

https://www.ghotit.com/ the name of this company relates to this; they sell a spell checker that is specially suited for people with dyslexia.

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Post by intellirogue » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 7:58 PM UTC

jdminhbg wrote: post #5

> while ti would only resemble sh when followed by a vowel sound ("mention", "martian", "patient", "spatial"). ti isn't "sh" in "mention," it's "ch," at least in any dialect I'm aware of. Cf. slang for Twitter mentions, "menchies."

In my NZ accent I definitely say "men-shin" not "men-chin", though those two sounds are very close.

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Post by matt-attack » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 8:00 PM UTC

intellirogue wrote: post #7

jdminhbg wrote: post #5

> while ti would only resemble sh when followed by a vowel sound ("mention", "martian", "patient", "spatial"). ti isn't "sh" in "mention," it's "ch," at least in any dialect I'm aware of. Cf. slang for Twitter mentions, "menchies."

In my NZ accent I definitely say "men-shin" not "men-chin", though those two sounds are very close.

I’m a native speaker and I frankly don’t know which I use. I could see it going either way.

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Post by LatteLazy » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 8:08 PM UTC

I'm a native English speaker who is currently learning German. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING YOUR SPELLING Work GERMANY! Sorry about our mess of BS you have to learn to use English.

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Post by saalweachter » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 8:18 PM UTC

matt-attack wrote: post #8

intellirogue wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my NZ accent I definitely say "men-shin" not "men-chin", though those two sounds are very close.

I’m a native speaker and I frankly don’t know which I use. I could see it going either way.

This is, incidentally, one of the tricky parts of trying to add a phonetic spelling to English.

Should the phonetic spelling of "mention" be "menshin" or "menchin"? Should the spelling be the same everywhere, with people pronouncing it the other way having to learn to spell it correctly, or should it be spelled differently depending on the dialect of the speaker?