thank god, I've seen a lot of americans rejected especially POC of varied backgrounds turned down in favor of some H1B nonsense to often it really impacts the ability for folks to rise up and move to new industries
Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas until end of year
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
It hasn’t been issued yet, so no way to know for sure but the rumor is that no one will be able to enter (including re-enter) if they fall under the executive order but those in the country in status will not be immediately impacted.
My educated guess is that the majority of this year's H-1B are already in the US. I wonder what it would mean for them.
The same as if they lost the lottery, presumably, except they find out 4 months earlier.
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#33This and eroding section 230. I wonder if tech companies are going to fire back at trump.
If Facebook/twitter/google wanted to play with fire they could use their platformS to basically vanquish the GOP. Those three companies control a significant amount of what people see online.
Hooray for a few corporations controlling almost everything we see online! It's ok because it's "my side" that has the power! Principles be damned, life is a power grab and I'm on the winning side, yippee! This will never turn out badly for me or anyone else in the future!
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
It hasn’t been issued yet, so no way to know for sure but the rumor is that no one will be able to enter (including re-enter) if they fall under the executive order but those in the country in status will not be immediately impacted.
My educated guess is that the majority of this year's H-1B are already in the US. I wonder what it would mean for them.
This year's H1-Bs don't start until October 1st, and they can't enter the US "early".
https://redbus2us.com/h1b-visa-petition-filing-deadline-is-i....
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#35The Silicon Valley was built on the backs of H1-B workers. There’s the bay wouldn’t be the technical hub without access to the global workforce.
The bay area doesn't vote Trump. This is a natural response to the voting mechanism. Only swing states get pandered to.
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#36This has gotten very old very fast (beyond the obvious cruelty). I have several friends who keep watching their colleagues just have to up and leave over this and it’s causing a ton of issues for businesses that employ folks on work visas in general. It’s just disruptive to be disruptive/feed the base.
It's just silly... even if you're a nationalist, isn't the prospect of bringing over talented people from foreign countries to work in America and help our companies profit plus deprive their home countries of their skills a really, really good thing?
Not if your conception of the nation only includes white people...
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems kind of silly to say without evidence that it's just to feed the base when there's a valid reason as to why it's being done (to prioritize Americans out of work)
Ah yes, we can expect restaurant staff to soon be working tech jobs.
The average H1B doesn't seem to have a PhD or get more than $100,000/yr (indicating that they can't do something that rare or valuable that you likely can't find in the American labor pool). It seems pretty clear to me that the program gets abused and Americans could fill most of those jobs. It does, of course, also fulfill its intended purpose of supplying skilled talent when/where Americans can't.
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#38This is great news for Canada. Once the Covid situation resolves, if Trudeau doesn't give a lot of incentives for tech companies to build offices there Canada will miss out on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
Canada has already been benefiting from the recent restrictions on work visas and rejecting visas for no reason, for example by saying a forensic pathologist isn't a specialty occupation.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/27/799402801/canada-wins-u-s-los...
https://insights.dice.com/2020/02/11/canada-continues-benefi...
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#39Most countries have suspended immigration at this point havent they? Hard to argue against such a thing amid covid.
I don't know that that's true, any source for that? If countries are opening up for tourists (!) I don't see why not for immigration.
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#40This has gotten very old very fast (beyond the obvious cruelty). I have several friends who keep watching their colleagues just have to up and leave over this and it’s causing a ton of issues for businesses that employ folks on work visas in general. It’s just disruptive to be disruptive/feed the base.
It's just silly... even if you're a nationalist, isn't the prospect of bringing over talented people from foreign countries to work in America and help our companies profit plus deprive their home countries of their skills a really, really good thing?
“Nationalism” in the US is about using fictive in-groups to inflict pain on others. There’s no rational calculation. It’s just about demonstrating the in-group’s ability exert power over out-groups.