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Private Equity Investing Now Allowed in 401(k) Retirement Funds

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Re: Private Equity Investing Now Allowed in 401(k) Retirement Funds

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Can we now subject large "private" firms to the same scrutiny that "public" have to obey? I always thought it was ridiculous that you could call a trillion dollar company with millions of shareholder, "private." From the sounds of it, this ruling handwaves away the inherent risk of investing in a company whose finances you have no visibility into by claiming that putting it into a diversified private fund is the same…

I believe the assumption is the fund manager is the kind of investor that will have the ability and resources to do proper due diligence before investing, contrary to the case of public companies that can sell stock to the average Joe

But now the issue is due diligence of the GP, the fund manager. I think that's what OP is talking about. PE firms don't have the same level of disclosure requirements as public companies (with the exception of those that are now public companies), and you need to research a fund just as you would research a stock.

Fund investors are usually family offices, endowments, foundations, fund of funds, secondaries funds, etc., and they all do a huge amount of due diligence on prospective fund investments. It's just as much work to research funds as it is to research public equities.

For reference, I have been an investment professional at both a PE firm and a hedge fund.

Re: Private Equity Investing Now Allowed in 401(k) Retirement Funds

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the assumption is the fund manager is the kind of investor that will have the ability and resources to do proper due diligence before investing, contrary to the case of public companies that can sell stock to the average Joe

But now the issue is due diligence of the GP, the fund manager. I think that's what OP is talking about. PE firms don't have the same level of disclosure requirements as public companies (with the exception of those that are now public companies), and you need to research a fund just as you would research a stock. Fund investors are usually family offices, endowments, foundations, fund of funds, secondaries funds, et…

But similarly, to my knowledge only accredited investors may invest in PEs / HFs, and shares in those funds are special kinds of securities that differ significantly from those covered by SEC / blue-sky laws and therefore are not subject to the same disclosure requirements. It's not in anyone's interest to treat these different types of investments as if they were similar.

I'm not in PE per se, but would think investment in one is through an investment contract which is an exempt security

Re: Private Equity Investing Now Allowed in 401(k) Retirement Funds

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But now the issue is due diligence of the GP, the fund manager. I think that's what OP is talking about. PE firms don't have the same level of disclosure requirements as public companies (with the exception of those that are now public companies), and you need to research a fund just as you would research a stock. Fund investors are usually family offices, endowments, foundations, fund of funds, secondaries funds, et…

But similarly, to my knowledge only accredited investors may invest in PEs / HFs, and shares in those funds are special kinds of securities that differ significantly from those covered by SEC / blue-sky laws and therefore are not subject to the same disclosure requirements. It's not in anyone's interest to treat these different types of investments as if they were similar. I'm not in PE per se, but would think invest…

Totally agree. Just if they are no longer for only accredited investors, there should be increased disclosure

Re: Private Equity Investing Now Allowed in 401(k) Retirement Funds

#74

I'd buy SpaceX stock, if Elon would allow.

https://blog.sfgate.com/pender/2015/03/25/see-which-fidelity...

I believe none of the Fidelity funds have even a 0.1% weight for SpaceX. (I haven't checked recently and I can't read the blog because of HTTP 451, but I don't think this has changed.)

I criticized buying Google in my other comment, but at 0.29% it's actually better than the Fidelity funds in this regard.

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