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Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by jlarocco » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 1:46 AM UTC

vmception wrote: post #54

teach wrote: post #5

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I "participated" in a less nefarious strategy. In 2010, when the collection of short stories "Machine of Death" was about to be released, the editor Ryan North asked us not to pre-order. Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day, which certainly led to increased sales over time. Probably didn't hurt that it…

> Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day. In my instagram marketing last decade thats what we did. While others were imagining that people "buy likes", or actually were dealing with bots, we were doing this for our clients. Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently…

That's a great summary of why social media is a dumpster fire. From buying fake likes down to plain old sleaziness, you seem to have covered all the bases.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by vmception » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 1:54 AM UTC

paulryanrogers wrote: post #75

vmception wrote: post #54

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> Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day. In my instagram marketing last decade thats what we did. While others were imagining that people "buy likes", or actually were dealing with bots, we were doing this for our clients. Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently…

So this is a strategy to meet women who value popularity first and foremost? Sounds like a lot of work to "skip the queue".

its a perk. sometimes I want to be around visually attractive people without much effort. sometimes I like to be the person behind the scenes that they are actually with, while the mountain of frustrated people in south east asia are publicly commenting on their posts.

sometimes I like to be around spunky models that +1 me to parties in seemingly dead San Francisco mid-week that I would never know about, while less visually attractive working professionals are too tired and unavailable and would spend the rest of their energy criticizing women that aren't making the same choices they are.

options.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by vmception » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 2:00 AM UTC

jlarocco wrote: post #81

vmception wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day. In my instagram marketing last decade thats what we did. While others were imagining that people "buy likes", or actually were dealing with bots, we were doing this for our clients. Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently…

That's a great summary of why social media is a dumpster fire. From buying fake likes down to plain old sleaziness, you seem to have covered all the bases.

Big dumpster fire.

A lot of people need the challenge of the dopamine hits, and become less interested once they know how to undermine it, or how fake or unfulfilling "success" is. High engagement can be used as a currency though, its common attribute being that you can trade it for goods and services in a predictable way.

I actually keep a very personal profile with maybe around 100 followers. I watch some of the women there - long time friends - chase fame and other guys with shiny things - and I have to laugh about it because its I always can present that way if I want to, but I watch to see if they ever mature to wanting more substance.

I have some criticisms for Facebook Inc about this though. They should really broker these transactions. There is a lot of sleeziness in the transactional side of growing these accounts. So instead of just ignoring it, they could really be getting a cut of this in so many ways.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by vmception » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 2:09 AM UTC

papeda wrote: post #58

vmception wrote: post #54

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> Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day. In my instagram marketing last decade thats what we did. While others were imagining that people "buy likes", or actually were dealing with bots, we were doing this for our clients. Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently…

> Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently private, and all the followers to a private profile get queued up, you can queue them up in the thousands or hundreds of thousands. I'm confused, why is it easier to get people to line up to follow a private account based on...nothing?

Curiosity. Intrigue. Boredom - well not necessarily, it is a form of entertainment for the instagram culture.

There is also silly user experience on instagram where you can share photos from a private profile to your friend but your friend can't see it at all unless they request to follow the profile too. Some content types get this behavior, more like animals, tropical landscape photography. Sometimes women/models, but thats more of a personal fawning.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by jccalhoun » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 2:33 AM UTC

geoffreyy wrote: post #65

david_draco wrote: post #45

Movies with similar concepts, which were surprisingly good: - Searching (2018, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7668870/ ) - Unfriended (2014, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3713166/ )

- Unfriended - Dark web (2018, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4761916/ ) aren't you thinking of this one instead? I've seen it and it was pretty good. When I saw your comment I was like, no way it was from 2014.

I think that is a sequel to the one from 2014.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by sien » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 2:53 AM UTC

manjalyc wrote: post #25

DevKoala wrote: post #9

I find it amusing that Zoom’s user experience allowed it to capture the market to such degree that is now making waves in pop culture. How did Google, Microsoft, Cisco, etc get it so wrong all of these years?

I would say the most important part, and where every company has shot themselves in the foot is the need for an account. With Zoom you can join meetings with just a link/code, and while it may seem trivial to us thats a huge plus for nontechnical people. That and the fact Zoom had seamless integration with large meetings with relatively little-to-no performance/quality costs is a huge benefit. The luck of timing & ad…

It's also a huge plus for places that lock down their computers so you can't install software on them.

I used to use WebEx on a personal laptop for work conversations with other organisations because my work machine wouldn't allow it to run properly.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by Kaze404 » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 3:10 AM UTC

vmception wrote: post #54

teach wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I "participated" in a less nefarious strategy. In 2010, when the collection of short stories "Machine of Death" was about to be released, the editor Ryan North asked us not to pre-order. Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day, which certainly led to increased sales over time. Probably didn't hurt that it…

> Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day. In my instagram marketing last decade thats what we did. While others were imagining that people "buy likes", or actually were dealing with bots, we were doing this for our clients. Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently…

This started as a great comment but I don't understand the non sequitur into casual mysoginy.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by vmception » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 3:35 AM UTC

Kaze404 wrote: post #87

vmception wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day. In my instagram marketing last decade thats what we did. While others were imagining that people "buy likes", or actually were dealing with bots, we were doing this for our clients. Basically you get meme accounts to do a promotion of a profile that is currently…

This started as a great comment but I don't understand the non sequitur into casual mysoginy.

There was no dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women in that paragraph. Please don't dilute real issues with your general awkwardness and discomfort.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by koheripbal » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 3:44 AM UTC

keeganpoppen wrote: post #79

paulryanrogers wrote: post #75

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So this is a strategy to meet women who value popularity first and foremost? Sounds like a lot of work to "skip the queue".

not to mention that you get what you deserve wrt. the outcomes / kind of people this attracts. honestly, seems like good matchmaking to me-- shallow meets shallow.

If it works for him, that's his business.

No one asked for your judgements.

Re: Unsubscribe: The $0-budget movie that ‘topped the US box office’

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Post by ALittleLight » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 3:47 AM UTC

floren wrote: post #17

teach wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I "participated" in a less nefarious strategy. In 2010, when the collection of short stories "Machine of Death" was about to be released, the editor Ryan North asked us not to pre-order. Instead, he suggested that we all wait and purchase the book on the same day from Amazon. The strategy worked -- the book was #1 in its category that day, which certainly led to increased sales over time. Probably didn't hurt that it…

I was just listening to a podcast that included Steve Rinella lamenting that his recent wild game cookbook didn't make the NYT Best Seller list despite selling out on Amazon... If I remember correctly, it was precisely because of pre-orders. Thus, as he prepares to release his latest book, he's asking fans to buy the book, but to try and mix it up from just Amazon pre-ordering: pre-order at independent bookstores, or…

Amazon could easily improve their rankings by changing it from "most purchased" to "pages read" or a similar metric. "Time users spent reading per dollar cost" would be a good measure. You could add something in to get a novelty factor if you wanted.

This would solve the pre-order problem as books wouldn't rank until people started reading them. It would also weed out books that people buy but don't actually read.