Good start with compiling the list .. a couple more .. AirBnb, All airline apps. Maybe they have contracts with the big guys for some lump sum deal, or maybe they are just letting them go as they have to ... We developers already pay for the subscription, WWDC, a shiny iPhone / MBP every couple of years (to test and develop the new features :(, learn a language and sdks just for the Apple world - We Devs need Apple for sure, but hey they need us too (!) .. high time for a push back .. Apple makes tons on the devices, they need to stop robbing from us little guy developers. Apple do the right thing and drop this 30% altogether .. you will not miss it :)
You download the app and it doesn’t work
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#13Apple shouldn't be dictating this. However, even if apps/companies have sign up in the app I still use the web browser to sign up. I like the security of the browser more for personal info and set up than an app full of unnecessary permissions. I personally truly do not mind, and even prefer, opening up a browser to sign up. Overall for liability reasons it might even be better to just have one endpoint for signing u…
They can dictate it, they just should be consistent.
Force everyone to do it or no-one, don't pick the WORST POSSIBLE APP to deny. @dhh isn't one of the people Apple really wants to get on the bad side of (See Apple Card debacle).
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#14All of these examples work as websites. What this says to me is that we actually don't _need_ apps.
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#15Ordinarily I would be inclined to say that as a "private marketplace", Apple is entirely within its rights to selectively enforce rules (and whims) like this so as to maximize their profit, but surely there must be a limit when about 45% of US smartphone users (so about 36% of the population) have an iPhone [1]?
At this point this is no private dark pool, but a public market place, the transactions on which affect an unfathomable number of consumers, and Apple should and must be subject to the level of government regulation and oversight that governs other public market places like the NYSE and the CME. I suspect that this will come sooner or later, or otherwise these markets will be broken up entirely, but behavior like this from Apple only hastens this outcome.
[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/236550/percentage-of-us-...
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#16> Purchases possible without Apple? > $99/year email service, of which Apple is rent-seeking $30 I'm wholly on Hey's side here, but I think this is a misleading way of putting it. Apple only wants 30% of in-app purchases, not purchases made outside of the app. The contention is that Hey thinks they shouldn't be required to accept in-app purchases, which given that either Hey or the user pays Apple an expensive tax on…
That is exactly what it means. If it costs $100, Apple is taking a $30 cut.
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#17> Purchases possible without Apple? > $99/year email service, of which Apple is rent-seeking $30 I'm wholly on Hey's side here, but I think this is a misleading way of putting it. Apple only wants 30% of in-app purchases, not purchases made outside of the app. The contention is that Hey thinks they shouldn't be required to accept in-app purchases, which given that either Hey or the user pays Apple an expensive tax on…
And Apple rejected the app because you can't buy that $99 service via IAP, meaning they have no ability to get their 30%.
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#18I don’t think anything will change unless a strong class action and/or monopoly suit is brought against Apple and I often wonder why we haven’t seen one yet.
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#19> "That’s not what we want on the store" -- Apple Vice President of Worldwide Marketing What if I own an iPhone and HEY is what I want on my phone? How can I override Apple's decision? If I can't, who really owns this device?
If you ask this questions, you shouldn't have an iPhone on the first place.
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#20I really don’t get the hills people choose to die on these days.
Do you want a successful business? Ok, then follow the rules, cover your ass, and do what you need to do to get your business going, even if it’s not always the ideal situation for you.
But no, I guess lashing out explosively and torpedoing everything because you’re not treated like the big players when you’re still a little guy is more satisfying, if less profitable.