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Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by rblatz »

TheGrim999 wrote: post #6
whatshisface wrote: post #2

What's the end goal here, to have people hired "because they are black?" I guarantee that will happen if there is money to be made by doing it.

If you haven't noticed, that's been the goal for a long time now. People get accepted to college because of the color of their skin. People get better SAT scores now because of the color of their skin. Every major company has diversity boards which make sure to hire people based in the color of their skin. Hollywood and big business choose who to be in ads, movies, and other customer facing media because of the color…

These policies exist because we live in an imperfect system that does see race and actively favors whiteness. It’s the pinnacle of white privilege and ignorance to say that “I don’t see race.”

Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by amluto »

TheGrim999 wrote: post #6
whatshisface wrote: post #2

What's the end goal here, to have people hired "because they are black?" I guarantee that will happen if there is money to be made by doing it.

If you haven't noticed, that's been the goal for a long time now. People get accepted to college because of the color of their skin. People get better SAT scores now because of the color of their skin. Every major company has diversity boards which make sure to hire people based in the color of their skin. Hollywood and big business choose who to be in ads, movies, and other customer facing media because of the color…

> by being as racist as it's possible to be.

Even if someone were to hire someone else solely because of the color of their skin, this would be nowhere near as racist as it’s possible to be.

Hint: people are being killed because of the color of their skin right now. People in the US used to buy people in large numbers because of the color of their skin.

Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by toomuchtodo »

rblatz wrote: post #11
TheGrim999 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you haven't noticed, that's been the goal for a long time now. People get accepted to college because of the color of their skin. People get better SAT scores now because of the color of their skin. Every major company has diversity boards which make sure to hire people based in the color of their skin. Hollywood and big business choose who to be in ads, movies, and other customer facing media because of the color…

These policies exist because we live in an imperfect system that does see race and actively favors whiteness. It’s the pinnacle of white privilege and ignorance to say that “I don’t see race.”

> It’s the pinnacle of white privilege and ignorance to say that “I don’t see race.”

Who gets to decide when "white privilege" no longer exists? Not intended to be inflammatory, just curious what the benchmark is. “If you can't measure it, you can't improve it.” sort of thing.

Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by DeusExMachina »

iagovar wrote: post #10
TheGrim999 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you haven't noticed, that's been the goal for a long time now. People get accepted to college because of the color of their skin. People get better SAT scores now because of the color of their skin. Every major company has diversity boards which make sure to hire people based in the color of their skin. Hollywood and big business choose who to be in ads, movies, and other customer facing media because of the color…

No idea why are you being downvoted. It seems like a pretty accurate description of what's happening. We don't have much of that in my country but we have it with women. Anyway it will eventually reach us as we're already colonized by American culture.

Probably sooner than you think. Thanks to the internet nowadays things travel incredibly fast.

Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by creaghpatr »

tuna-piano wrote: post #9

What person from an underrepresented group wants to be chosen just because of their group status? Isn't that highly patronizing for someone who likely had worked hard to get to where they got? Do you want to be "pretty great for a xxxxx person!" or just "one of the best". Is this a lesson that people want their kids to learn? Doesn't this also lead discrimination actually being a rational (and maybe ethical) thing to…

On the other hand, being a doctor pays really well and is often a rewarding and fulfilling career.

Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by mullingitover »

TheGrim999 wrote: post #6
whatshisface wrote: post #2

What's the end goal here, to have people hired "because they are black?" I guarantee that will happen if there is money to be made by doing it.

If you haven't noticed, that's been the goal for a long time now. People get accepted to college because of the color of their skin. People get better SAT scores now because of the color of their skin. Every major company has diversity boards which make sure to hire people based in the color of their skin. Hollywood and big business choose who to be in ads, movies, and other customer facing media because of the color…

> It's really so interesting that these groups of politically motivated people think they're ending what they perceive as racism ... by being as racist as it's possible to be.

The existing system is already very biased against them, I don't have a problem with some corrective action.

"In fact, companies are more than twice as likely to call minority applicants for interviews if they submit whitened resumes than candidates who reveal their race—and this discriminatory practice is just as strong for businesses that claim to value diversity as those that don’t."

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minorities-who-whiten-job-resumes...

Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by TheGrim999 »

amluto wrote: post #12
TheGrim999 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you haven't noticed, that's been the goal for a long time now. People get accepted to college because of the color of their skin. People get better SAT scores now because of the color of their skin. Every major company has diversity boards which make sure to hire people based in the color of their skin. Hollywood and big business choose who to be in ads, movies, and other customer facing media because of the color…

> by being as racist as it's possible to be. Even if someone were to hire someone else solely because of the color of their skin, this would be nowhere near as racist as it’s possible to be. Hint: people are being killed because of the color of their skin right now. People in the US used to buy people in large numbers because of the color of their skin.

I know this will be hard to accept, but no matter how many people tell me that minorities are being killed because of the color of their skin, I've noticed that not a single one of these people ever include any facts or data to back up that claim.

Sure, black people are killed by police. So are white people. So are people of every race. All the actual data I've seen is that black people are killed less frequently, in proportion to the violent crime they commit than white people are.

I believe your thought process is no more than a mind virus, a viral meme, that's wrapped up in emotion and pushed as hard as possible for political gain.

There's plenty of videos of white people being killed by police that you all just ignore. You don't look at the actual data or think critically, you're just driven by emotion and group think.

Re: Want to Solve Venture Capital's Diversity Problem? Start with Pension Funds

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Post by [deleted] »

JPKab wrote: post #3

"At this moment of heightened public awareness, forcing big public pension funds to commit to putting more of their dollars in funds controlled by minorities could have a major impact. These public institutions, unlike their corporate kin, represent a wide and diverse swath of the country, making investment decisions for public servants like teachers, firefighters and municipal workers." While I think this is a pheno…

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