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Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

#41
Pardon, but it is actually the author who is whining here. DHH has raised some very valid points, especially when many businesses rely on Apple Store. There is nothing wrong to talk about it, especially when Apple itself provides a "web option" instead of IAP to avoid X% of cuts.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

#42
No, they haven't earned the right to exploit their monopoly this way. It's a monopoly because the only way to get an app onto an iPhone (at least, without rooting the device) is via the app store. The writer thinks that it is perfectly appropriate for Apple to steal from the poor and not from the rich, exploiting their power to score every dollar they can get. But antitrust law exists for a reason, and though the current US administration isn't very interested in enforcing it, the EU and Japan are less likely to let Apple continue to get away with their practices.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

#46

If you don’t like how Apple does business, stop using their products. If you don’t like how Google does business, stop using their products. If you don’t like how either one does business, stop using technology all together. I am being facetious, but mainly to illustrate the point that we now have a series of entrenched monopolies in the tech world so “stop using X” isn’t a realistic solution.

On the other hand, for us "tech people" it is actually easier to stop using Google and Apple and serve as example for others. Pushing for anti-monopoly legislation needs not be the only thing that we do to solve that problem.

Moreover, for people who are not citizens of the USA (the large majority of the people!), there's no other clear course of action.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

#47
post #3

"Whining" is an overly prejudicial word choice for this title. These are legitimate issues people have with what Apple is doing, not mere whining. This echoes the "if you don't like it so much then just leave instead of speaking up" dismissal that is so commonly used as a lampshade for suppressing dissent. Not sure if that's the intent here but that's what it comes off as. And this point from the article needs to be…

Apple isn't a monopoly as per law, there are plenty of other device manufacturers to choose from, and in some markets iDevices aren't even available.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

#48
I will continue to use Apple but I pulled both of my apps from their app store years ago due to maltreatment. I don’t use their app store as a consumer either. IMO it’s a wasteland.

Unpopular opinion but I also think it should be completely up to them to set their revenue share. Let their app store wither away as developers create platform-independent web applications instead.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

#49
Nooooo!!!!

I am sustained by Apple hatred. It is an essential part of my balanced diet.

Every time someone complains about how expensive Apple is I grow a centimeter and every time someone bitches about their App Store policies I gain a month of lifespan.

I am now 40km tall and will live for 50,000 years but ultimately a lack of whining about Apple would see me wither away and die.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

#50
post #8

I can't stop. I've been buying computers and peripherals and gizmos since 1974. I have a house full of them. I code for food. But I've yet to buy my first Apple product or service. Yes, it's mostly because I'm cheap. But it's also because I avoid walled gardens. I feel pretty good about that now. Climb on out, y'all, the weather's fine out here in the jungle.

Seriously. It _is_ just fine out here. There's choice! It could be better -- it is very Googly. But there is wiggle room that has been growing even, with LineageOS, F-Droid, PinePhone/PostmarketOS, etc.

And it was also completely predictable that the walled garden would evolve into what it has become. It's easy to choose otherwise...

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