> an email service I will be calling Yo in this article
Why?
Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
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Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
#32Disclaimer: I only read the subject line and the first paragraph.
Years ago, when Internet Explorer had market dominance, I was working on a website and I wanted to use a feature that IE didn’t support yet. I asked a question on a forum about how to do it in IE. One of the replies was "just stop using IE."
Dude. It's not for me. It's for my customers.
Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
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Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
#34"Whining" is an overly prejudicial word choice for this title. These are legitimate issues people have with what Apple is doing, not mere whining. This echoes the "if you don't like it so much then just leave instead of speaking up" dismissal that is so commonly used as a lampshade for suppressing dissent. Not sure if that's the intent here but that's what it comes off as. And this point from the article needs to be…
You fail to define what the legitimate issues are.
They have no real hardware or store monopoly, Android still out numbers them in install base.
Legally it’s undecided at all. This is essentially complaining Walmart and Target use different means of revenue generation for placing product.
Maybe Microsoft can get a phone and store off the ground that has a bigger install base. Oh wait. Maybe app sellers should have heeded the warnings when app stores launched about this exact problem!
Just because you and others don’t feel good about it doesn’t mean it’s legitimate.
App sellers have a legitimate issue with Apple after choosing to go all in knowing how it works.
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#35Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
#36"Whining" is an overly prejudicial word choice for this title. These are legitimate issues people have with what Apple is doing, not mere whining. This echoes the "if you don't like it so much then just leave instead of speaking up" dismissal that is so commonly used as a lampshade for suppressing dissent. Not sure if that's the intent here but that's what it comes off as. And this point from the article needs to be…
Agreed. There's a false dichotomy here. You can use a product, and as a stakeholder demand change. Refraining from using the product entirely is one way to achieve that, but it's not the only way. Many products evolve because of user-feedback.
> Many products evolve because of user-feedback.
And regulation. See GDPR and CCPA.
Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
#37Who is this person and why do they feel they're an authority?
Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
#38Seems to me there is a lot of heat and very little light flying around on the entire App Store issue. A lot of those "whining" the loudest——although let's call it legitimate debate instead of whining——don't seem to be fully grasping all the benefits of a walled ecosystem along with the drawbacks.
I don't think debating this issue gets us very far unless we're intellectually honest with each other about all the benefits as well as the drawbacks.
Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
#39"Whining" is an overly prejudicial word choice for this title. These are legitimate issues people have with what Apple is doing, not mere whining. This echoes the "if you don't like it so much then just leave instead of speaking up" dismissal that is so commonly used as a lampshade for suppressing dissent. Not sure if that's the intent here but that's what it comes off as. And this point from the article needs to be…
Agreed. There's a false dichotomy here. You can use a product, and as a stakeholder demand change. Refraining from using the product entirely is one way to achieve that, but it's not the only way. Many products evolve because of user-feedback.
You’re not a stakeholder for buying a computer.
You seem to have a very confused view of the consumer role legally and historically.
Giving them money for a product does not give you a real voice.
Argue for that first. Otherwise you may as well argue you’re a stakeholder to a tree.
Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
#40Anti-trust problems can't be solved by individual consumer choices.
Especially when there is no legitimate anti-trust issue to begin with.