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Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Post by recursivedoubts »

I recently bought a system76 lemur pro after being a long time macbook user:

https://system76.com/laptops/lemur

I will not claim that there are no trade offs, but I find it a very productive machine, and very light weight. I use an external monitor and keyboard, plugged in to a usb-c hub, and it works well.

I am hoping that the mudita pure can replace my iphone:

https://mudita.com/products/pure/

I do wish someone would do a not-dumb-but-not-too-smart e-ink phone with basic maps and a physical keyboard, but I recognize that I am likely a market of one for that product.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Post by cryptoz »

Lammy wrote: post #6
CydeWeys wrote: post #3

"Whining" is an overly prejudicial word choice for this title. These are legitimate issues people have with what Apple is doing, not mere whining. This echoes the "if you don't like it so much then just leave instead of speaking up" dismissal that is so commonly used as a lampshade for suppressing dissent. Not sure if that's the intent here but that's what it comes off as. And this point from the article needs to be…

The author changing "Hey" to "Yo" was also a poor choice considering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_(app)

I thought this was actually about Yo again! Had me tricked out they were relevant again.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Post by rob74 »

Lammy wrote: post #6
CydeWeys wrote: post #3

"Whining" is an overly prejudicial word choice for this title. These are legitimate issues people have with what Apple is doing, not mere whining. This echoes the "if you don't like it so much then just leave instead of speaking up" dismissal that is so commonly used as a lampshade for suppressing dissent. Not sure if that's the intent here but that's what it comes off as. And this point from the article needs to be…

The author changing "Hey" to "Yo" was also a poor choice considering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_(app)

Maybe he should have used "Let's go" instead...

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Post by lazyjones »

> Stop buying iPhones. Seriously. They’re overpriced and locked-down and controlled by Apple in infuriating ways that hurt you, even if Apple has succeeded in keeping you ignorant of that fact.

I'll take your word for it... not! iPhones are fine, everyone who has used both current Android and iOS devices can see that. It's not hurting me that "Hey" has to pay 30% for their subscriptions. Hotels, restaurants and other companies have to pay similar rates to their respective dominating "gatekeepers" as well. For the consumer it doesn't matter. For someone like "Hey" the way to go is to pay up now and if they are successful, they might be able to negotiate better terms later.

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Post by fermienrico »

hirundo wrote: post #8

I can't stop. I've been buying computers and peripherals and gizmos since 1974. I have a house full of them. I code for food. But I've yet to buy my first Apple product or service. Yes, it's mostly because I'm cheap. But it's also because I avoid walled gardens. I feel pretty good about that now. Climb on out, y'all, the weather's fine out here in the jungle.

Am I the only one who loves Apple products?

I love MacOS. I love iOS. I love all things Apple. Customer service is totally top notch. Physical quality is excellent, of course I have my wishes and pet peeves (don’t like cold aluminum, stupid touchbar, keyboard!).

I’m willing to pay even double the cost of other cheaply made products from Asus, Acer, Samsung, etc.

Not to mention the whole ecosystem thing and I trust Apple with my data - more than Google and I can’t even think about Microsoft (windows is a billboard of ads). If China had a competitor to Apple for OS/hardware (not talking about Foxconn, that’s a ODM), they would need to literally convert to democracy before they can even get in the playing field. They’re not even in the same league, not even the same sport right now.

Initially, I was apathetic. Then I liked Apple products. Then I started loving them. They’re arrogant, they care about you, they made mistakes, they charge a lot of premium - I love them. They must have done something right to win me?

Re: Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them

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Post by jonny_eh »

> The Solution for Consumers

> Stop buying iPhones

There's the problem with this argument. Consumers are suffering, but don't realize it. The lack of competition, and the increased cost to developers, are depriving consumers of innovative products like Hey, but they don't know it. You can't expect consumer to know when they buy a phone, that it will cause a future company to fail to launch an innovative new product. It's this very reason why we have anti-trust laws.

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