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Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

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Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

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post #18

My biggest problem with it was the lack of support for frames. Many sites I use serve documents in frames making hypothes.is unable to see them. Also, why not work with NextCloud and create an app to annotate documents there. NextCloud over public or private share?

In a way, Nextcloud is a silo (even though it's open source and can be selfhosted). If you annotate documents there, you'd have to snapshot the page and move it into the app which kills the social function?

In contrast, Hypothesis only keeps track of the metadata and uses fuzzy anchoring to make it resilient to the markup changes.

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

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Hi, I started using this as a training tool for people I'm trying to help in meetups and my community (people who have never used AWS, GCP, etc) but a huge problem I found out after writing a lot of annotations (and clearly having the wrong expectation) was that you can't edit or have any control over the URLs that the annotations are based on.

If the devs are interested in my use case (understood if not) which is basically a poor mans onboarding tool, I'd love and happily spend some money (not onboarding tool money, those seem to be $1k+/month) on the ability to edit urls, share these, etc.

What I envisioned this as letting me do was creating versioned annotations that let me share them to anyone and they can superimpose those annotations on top of any URL that has the same basic structure behind it amazon.com/$myuser/$mycluster$/$myportal etc. I thought it'd be a really killer tool to use for helping new devs learn AWS more easily than digging constantly digging through AWS documentation, ie: "What is lamba? click button 10 quick bullet points on Lambda" sort of thing.

A lot of these users will be using localhost, their IP, digitalocean IPs, etc instead of a concrete domain name. It'd be great if we could regex the url strings or something like that.

Thanks for your work!

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

#24
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand. Thanks for the feedback. I think about this too. I'm not an anonymous person. I've been a Hacker News user since the very beginning. I share my contact info in my profile. My reputation is my livelihood. I've never done anything shady and don't intend to start now :-) So I'd like to believe that people see that judge for themselves whether to trust me or not. Knowing who is behind a product, at least fo…

The problem is the change with success. Page and Brin where once idealistic hackers and even came up with a catch phrase of "Don't be evil", fast forward and it did not work and the reality is it probably had very little to do with them. Success and size whittle away at idealistic visions. You need to put together a framework before you are successful, on how you are going to enforce that your core values reflect wit…

Yes, that's a great point. Is a strong privacy policy the solution? I do have one in place. I'm happy to put in stronger commitments.

Another thing to highlight here: Histre is a paid product. I'm bootstrapping it. I think that it is the "free" products that go the adtech route. By charging the users, I'm making it clear that it is their money that supports Histre.

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

#25
post #5

I've long felt that annotation was one of the greatest missed opportunities of the web. Every major content website implements commenting differently and often poorly. I'd much prefer to have comments come from a third party system where I can: own my own comments, not be subject to removal by the author of the content, and choose the group of people I want to discuss with. Imagine if hackernews discussions appeared…

> not be subject to removal by the author of the content

That's why everyone is doing it themself. They don't wanna make it to easy for people to find their dirt, also make it harder for trolls and spammer to harm them. Protecting yourself from others is a legit problem with this.

But besides that, aren't sites like hackernews and reddit basically like that? All you need is an extension which querys them for the active url or domain and shows the results on the side.

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

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Quick background. Hypothes.is was founded by Dan Whaley:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/danwhaley

Dan built and sold an Internet travel app in the 90s, and then became involved in climate work. He's been committed to it for many years.

Hypothes.is was created in order to address the problem of disinformation on the Internet, especially related to climate change; e.g. the Wall Street Journal publishes an Op-Ed from Charles Koch denying that human activity is contributing to global warming, and an annotation channel run by climate scientists can dissect it point by point.

I respect and admire that vision, and I think it's trying to get to one of the root causes of climate change denialism.

(Obviously, Hypothes.is has many other great uses!)

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

#27
post #21

Love this but please for the love of everything holy make a firefox extension. The bookmarklet works but you only see annotations if I click on the link. It's sad and clear chrome is the new IE and mozilla is again the underdog.

Unofficial versions exist https://github.com/Abdillah/hypothesis-firefox

The one I use works fine

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

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post #2

I tried them a while ago. Really liked it but put it aside till they implement https://www.w3.org/annotation/ as promised. Just checked https://h.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api/ and the v2 API in development has nothing to do with the W3C standard. UPD: there is not a single issue open on the main repo wrt W3C standard implementation: https://github.com/hypothesis/h/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aope... . The post I took as…

If your use of a piece of software is contingent on something like that, it sounds like you didn’t really have a need for it in the first place

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is the change with success. Page and Brin where once idealistic hackers and even came up with a catch phrase of "Don't be evil", fast forward and it did not work and the reality is it probably had very little to do with them. Success and size whittle away at idealistic visions. You need to put together a framework before you are successful, on how you are going to enforce that your core values reflect wit…

Yes, that's a great point. Is a strong privacy policy the solution? I do have one in place. I'm happy to put in stronger commitments. Another thing to highlight here: Histre is a paid product. I'm bootstrapping it. I think that it is the "free" products that go the adtech route. By charging the users, I'm making it clear that it is their money that supports Histre.

I would say a legal poison pill, something that builds a framework that the company is dissolved if the core tenants are violated, or that all digital assets are forfeited to a no-profit privacy group.

Re: Hypothes.is: An Open Annotations Platform

#30
I interviewed with this little company back in 2014 trying to land my first dev gig. Didn’t get the job but I would’ve taken it for less money if they’d offered.

Impressed they’re still going! I’ve worked for two failed startups since.

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