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Re: Show HN: Automatically Rename HEY's 'Imbox' to 'Inbox'

#71

~~I'm surprised no one here has mentioned (or possibly not noticed) that the developer is an employee of Hey. This is definitely some sort of bad press marketing thing.~~ Edit: actually, it turns out I'm just an idiot and shouldn't comment on things before I fully wake up. That's my b.

Hey, I'm definitely not an Hey employee :)

Re: Show HN: Automatically Rename HEY's 'Imbox' to 'Inbox'

#72

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For me it was their marketing message. Empty, annoying, misleading and filled with pats on the back, Apple style. Except I can't find anything innovative

Come on, nothing innovative? It really is innovative. Whitelist screening, batch replying, proper “reply later” etc I think imbox is embarrassing, and I don’t like the graphic design, but it’s definitely innovative and good for them for doing something different.

Whitelist is RACIST.

Re: Show HN: Automatically Rename HEY's 'Imbox' to 'Inbox'

#73

We discussed this at work. It's smug in a way that I can't articulate. Our first thought was that it was a typo, then we found the actual part of their website that tells us "no, it's not a typo". Thanks for that guys, I appreciate you changing my expectation to meet your contrived brand of UX design. edit: typo :D

I didn't mind most of the marketing, but FWIW I saw Jason Fried talk the first time in the hey walkthrough and I did find something insufferably smug about the way he spoke.

But I still think it's a cool product and luckily I won't have to hear Jason Fried talk while using it.

Re: Show HN: Automatically Rename HEY's 'Imbox' to 'Inbox'

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Genuinely need to block Hey in keywords now. The marketing is too much.

Are you suggesting the drama with Apple was part of their marketing? Because I dont see lots of Hey from marketing side, I do see lots of hey on the argument against Apple App Store.

Of course it is. They've weaponised it to their advantage. The actual solution to getting their app approved is obvious. But they've decided there's a greater gain in PR by 'taking Apple on'.

Re: Show HN: Automatically Rename HEY's 'Imbox' to 'Inbox'

#76

I amazed how much people get annoyed by such a small and insignificant detail. I also noticed the "Imbox" but i dont believe i thought about it for more than 1 second.

It's a minor distraction that isn't necessary and doesn't add anything. When I see a typo, I instinctively go back and re-read the word or sentence to make sure I didn't misread something. The last thing I want in my e-mail client is additional mental overhead. It's a minor detail, but it's also unnecessary, subtracts more than it adds, and it's easy to fix.

> doesnt add anything

This entire discussion thread exists because of that one little thing. In other words, it adds marketing value. Getting people to discuss your product, even if negative, is still free marketing.

Re: Show HN: Automatically Rename HEY's 'Imbox' to 'Inbox'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it was their marketing message. Empty, annoying, misleading and filled with pats on the back, Apple style. Except I can't find anything innovative

Come on, nothing innovative? It really is innovative. Whitelist screening, batch replying, proper “reply later” etc I think imbox is embarrassing, and I don’t like the graphic design, but it’s definitely innovative and good for them for doing something different.

I think there's a subset of tech folks that don't really value UX (which is like 90% of hey's value-add). It's the same people that don't understand Slack's value because "it's just over-hyped IRC"

Re: Show HN: Automatically Rename HEY's 'Imbox' to 'Inbox'

#80

HEY looked interesting until I found out they don't support IMAP. When I think about the problems with email, I don't think primarily about the interface, but about the fact that the open standards on which it is based are increasingly being ignored.

That’s all super fair, but they also argue this direction allows them to innovate as well. Notably, their direction resembles a rails approach and lets the server do more work. (Because Hey is instead just a standard API client, whereas the client can tell the server things that you just can’t do with IMAP.)

I imagine with the Apple situation they are working on adding support currently however, even if it’s reduced. They need an iOS plan B.

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