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Re: Mozilla VPN

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I was just about to change to something different from LastPass, pretty much convinced about Bitwarden from previous HN mentions, until you mentioned Lockwise :-) care to share some pros and cons or comparison between these two?

I personally use 1Password due to it being better polished than Bitwarden and the support being excellent. I'm using it with Windows/Edge and haven't encountered any problems.

Judging from the sibling comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23567966), the support for non-mac platforms sounded to be less than stellar. Still nice to have different opinions, so thanks.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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> over 70% of early Beta-testers say that the VPN helps them feel empowered, safe, and independent

Well, does it make people empowered, safe and independent? Never mind what people feel - the users don't know the details of the implementation, so their belief could be mistaken.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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It's disheartening that Mozilla is continuing to actively avoid partnering with the Tor project for problems like this, despite the fact that the Tor project has contributed to Firefox for many years (mostly related to fingerprint resistance). I get that Mozilla needs to make money, but the fact that they still haven't made "private browsing mode" actually private by making it use Tor is a real shame.

The amount of exit nodes would be insane. And I don’t think Mozilla would want the liability of running them.

I'm not sure how you got "Mozilla should run all the Tor exit nodes" from my comment.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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There are many VPN services that begin just by reselling white-label VPN solutions, such as provided by NordVPN[1], because it's much cheaper and easier than building your own globally distributed high-capacity and low-latency network. I hope that Mozilla didn't go down this route, as many suspect ProtonVPN did[2], which Mozilla has partnered in the past with[3]. In fact, given that partnership I wouldn't be surprise…

FYI Mozilla VPN will just be rebranded Mullvad, ProtonVPN is outdated. https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2019/12/3/mullvad-partnerships-p...

Thank you, I wasn't aware of that. I consider Mullvad to be both, a technologically superior product, and a much more trustworthy company than ProtonVPN.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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A VPN is just a tunnel from one point to another. You'd have to establish why the remote end is more trustworthy than the local end. Being located in a hostile jurisdiction may be somewhat protective, but it would also seem likely that compromising foreign VPN services is within the NSA's wheelhouse.

Unless I set up my own VPN I'll share a VPN server and IP with other people. That makes my traffic inherently more anonymous once it has left the VPN server, since you can't correlate traffic to a single person anymore. So even if traffic in the data center is analyzed, that's better than my ISP analyzing traffic. Thus we only have to establish that the VPN provider is at least as trustworthy as my ISP. That's a pret…

> I'll share a VPN server and IP with other people.

Yes, now the NSA have a single point where data can be collected that would be much more interesting than at your ISP.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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I'll live without a VPN as long as it is crazy expensive to find one fast enough to not throttle my connection (so 1gbps) with unlimited data and support for encryption at a level that is okayish secure yet still fast enough to not kill my server or router. I've tried a few that said they could deliver, but none of them could. I have no interest in paying my ISP for bandwidth and then strangle it with a VPN.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Not just track you, some ISPs will simply redirect all UDP port 53 DNS packets to their own DNS anyway.

Which ISP? People arguing against DNS over HTTPS claim stuff the doesn't happen so it'd be good to have definite examples.

I know until recently Sky broadband was doing this.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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It uses Mullvad, and is the same price as Mullvad. I am assuming Mozilla gets a cut. When my current Mullvad subscription expires, I will switch over.

I’ve been speedtesting a few VPN networks, and the biggest surprise has been how fast Mullvad + Wireguard are. I need to try NordLynx (NordVPN’s flavor of Wireguard) for more of an apples-to-apples comparison, but at least on the speed metric, it looks like Mozilla chose a good partner. Making deeper data exploration possible is a work in progress, but you can see what I have so far here: https://vpnwire.co

How close is Mullvad to your max bandwidth? In other words how much loss of bandwidth do you see?

Re: Mozilla VPN

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That’s what I said. VPNs are good for “location spoofing,” i.e. changing your web-facing IP address to a different region. VPNs are great for this purpose. The issue is, VPN companies (Mozilla included) are marketing their service as one that improves your safety when it doesn’t.

The value of location spoofing is to access geographically-restricted content (like a netflix show that is available through their service in Europe but not the US), not to avoid DMCA notices. VPNs are valuable for avoiding DMCA because it hides from your ISP (the entity serving you the notice) what you are torrenting.

If you live in a place where the ISP actually looks at what you torrent and does something about it then you clearly need a VPN. Luckily that mostly happens in places where a DMCA is the least of your worries, like eastern europe and the middle east.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Only Mozilla can make me pay for Google services like Email/Calendar etc. I think I subconsciously trust the brand more than most internet companies out there.

How about FastMail? They have a stellar email service. They also offer contacts and calendars, though I don't personally use those (I use iCloud for that).

I love FastMail. Never looked back.
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