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Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

How about a search engine? Why can't they make their DuckDuckGo analog?

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

But then they would just turn into Google.

Too much power corrupts.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Is it a general-purpose VPN service or can it only be used from within Firefox? Because that would make it only half as useful.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #204

Every time the VPN service industry is discussed on HN there is a barrage of comments that use keywords like “honeypot”, “snake oil”, and “shady”. I’m not denying that the industry has problems, but in this thread I’d like to focus on how we can improve it. Please tell me - What makes a VPN provider trustworthy, and how do you _know_? Personally I believe a trustworthy provider is _characterized_ by consistent action…

Thank you for being here and starting this conversation.

I've joined several popular VPN services this year in my work on VPN Wire, and Mullvad's signup flow was by far the most enjoyable. Not only because there's no email required (a little disorienting, but very refreshing), but also because, unlike the experience on many of your competitors' sites, I didn't feel pressured to buy/commit every step of the way. User-friendly site design, in other words, is a positive signal.

I personally regard audits and pentests as strong positive signals. For example, PwC's audit of NordVPN's no logs policy was a positive for me. As someone in the industry, I'm curious if you feel the same.

Open source software and public APIs are very nice to see.

> What tools, technology, process, or ecosystem do they need to tell honest and dishonest apart?

Other than audits, I don't have a good answer to this one. I would love to hear some technical solutions, and hope other people reply!

And as an aside, kudos on running a very speedy network :) https://vpnwire.co

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

I agree. Bundle a PiHole-powered cluster service with a secure proxy for child surfing and Mozilla will get my bucks. Last but not least, it should be easy to set up.

I recommend https://nextdns.io/ as "pihole as a service" (I'm not affiliated to piHole in anyway, just a happy user =) )

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #407
post #381

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What, exactly, do you feel is deficient about IMAP vs. JMAP, other than the latter being a protocol that doesn't require a bespoke parser? The only thing even remotely semi-annoying about IMAP that I can think of is the way message identifiers are per-connection (but in some very important way that actually makes sense).

Being a stateless protocol is the big one, for mobile. There’s more: https://fastmail.blog/2014/12/23/jmap-a-better-way-to-email/

That "stateless" paragraph in that article is explicitly referring to the per-connection message identifiers I was referring to; but that state burden is mostly carried by the server (which is put in the awkward position of dealing with separate clients with individual state sharing a mailbox) not the client (which by definition has a unique state anyway), which the article even admits.

I will argue that if you use the right data structures--not that anyone does--it really isn't that hard to make that work on the server, and the benefits to the client are actually enormous... particularly on mobile!

The way IMAP handles message identifiers allows for the client to pretend to manage a ridiculously large list of messages without storing any state locally that isn't visible on the screen (like it is _so good at this_ as Mark Crispin seriously intended the original IMAP protocol to be used by thin clients for mail: synchronizing mail over IMAP was never the intended usage model), as the entire problem of managing that consistent view has been pushed to the server (where it is solvable, just no one cares enough to even do a basic implementation correct much less a good one as everyone misunderstands and detests IMAP).

FWIW, the argument for how JMAP supports update batching over push notification channels is in fact interesting for mobile clients :(. That is so totally the fault of the mobile networks and OS people, though :(. The correct solution for that is to provide a flow control layer for wireless IP, at which point every app could be doing its own end-to-end encrypted push notification stuff without having to go through Apple/Google, but the incentive structure to centralize notifications through a middleman was just too great :/.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #337
post #214

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I was just about to change to something different from LastPass, pretty much convinced about Bitwarden from previous HN mentions, until you mentioned Lockwise :-) care to share some pros and cons or comparison between these two?

I personally use 1Password due to it being better polished than Bitwarden and the support being excellent. I'm using it with Windows/Edge and haven't encountered any problems.

I moved away from it because they still don't have a fully featured Linux client, and their 1PasswordX client is missing some features, and seems to be in general quite lot slower than Bitwarden.

Having said that, Bitwarden is a big pain in the ass. I still can't open the main window when I'm in private browsing window.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #182

Every time someone mentions a VPN provider in my techie social circles, the "A VPN doesn't protect you" crowd piles in, usually with links to something like: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29 I don't understand this argument, but would like to. I run https://everytwoyears.org , a political non-profit focused on ending the warrantless metadata collection of U.S. citizens' communications. From every…

There’s a lot of gross stuff that your ISPs (which includes your mobile phone provider) do to further monetize your relationship with them, and having a VPN can negate that. ISPs can observe your DNS lookups to their servers and assemble a profile on you based on the domain names you look up, and put you into a series of audiences that marketers can then use (for a fee) for ad targeting. ISPs can also observer your D…

A VPN can negate that but now you're putting your trust in the VPN company's hand.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #408
post #387

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This suggests the opposite of what you say in your original comment.

https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn...

You should also link the HN thread where proton categorically denies the claims.

In particular, the claim that tesonet controls protonvpn's release signing key.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #424
post #404

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I’ve never been able to search my entire mail archive quickly over IMAP, using Gmail or Fastmail. Mobile IMAP clients seem especially slow and inconsistent.

IMAP exposes a pretty comprehensive server-side query system. If your email is being synced locally then you aren't dealing with an IMAP limitation, as it isn't even using IMAP. If it is searching remotely, wither the email isn't being indexed for those searches or the client is doing some ridiculously poor search strategy. Like, if you actually look at the mechanism IMPA exposes for this, it is pretty powerful. (The…

So I’m told, and yet searching my mail from the iOS mail app over IMAP is slow and unreliable, so I use the Fastmail app, even though it is slower to launch. Have you found a mobile IMAP client that works? notmuch [1] looks like it would solve my problems on the desktop, but searching from mobile devices is important to me.

[1] https://notmuchmail.org

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