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Re: Mozilla VPN

#332
I really like Mozilla, and I like to see them bring some competition for my dollars that are currently going to the proton suite of services.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#333
I currently run a wireguard vpn on digital ocean and it works really well.

What is the reason for developers to pay for this service when they can set one up in less than 5 minutes and automate the whole thing with user-init scripts.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#334

Every time someone mentions a VPN provider in my techie social circles, the "A VPN doesn't protect you" crowd piles in, usually with links to something like: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29 I don't understand this argument, but would like to. I run https://everytwoyears.org , a political non-profit focused on ending the warrantless metadata collection of U.S. citizens' communications. From every…

A VPN is a crappy hack around a bigger problem.

Protocols are not designed for what we use them for, and buggy legacy applications that won't change their protocols or implement them correctly. The more people use VPNs, the more the problem gets buried behind a wall of abstraction. The proliferation of VPNs is really the burying of a problem, not the solution.

I don't care about being tracked, because I live my life in the open. I'm not a vulnerable minority, so I don't fear for my safety. I don't care what a random corporation (or anyone, really) knows about me. You could log into every digital account I have, and the only thing I'd be worried about you finding is an active session to my bank's website if I was still logged in at the time. I don't care if my ISP "monetizes me".

I also know how to browse the web as securely as possible, and that there are plenty of ways I can be hacked regardless of my network connection. The biggest risk I face is not from a VPN, but from my local network: if my internet modem or router gets compromised (either remotely or through my machine), I'm subject to local attacks a VPN won't protect me from. And if the government wants to hack me, they'll just guess what websites I'm viewing (either by conventional means or statistical traffic analysis), hack the server, and drop a payload through a browser 0-day.

I could see using a VPN if I was an activist, or of a class of citizen that's oppressed by my society or government. But even then, they'd figure out I was using a VPN, and realize I'm hiding something. So you could argue everyone should be on a VPN to make this less noticeable.

But then we go back to the beginning: we're not solving the root problem.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#335

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> Governments have the same ability to leverage things like trackers It's not clear to me whether the methods trackers use to de-anonymize you are considered "content" or "metadata", and whether the U.S. government would need a warrant to access tracker information. Do you have thoughts?

You can buy the data on the market without a warrant. VPNs seems like a really obvious bypass of controls and surveillance capability. I’m sure the folks at NSA, et al thought of it too.

They can think of it, sure. But when you read their testimonies, and read the summaries of leaked documents, you can see they are attempting to be law abiding even if they _really_ stretch to interpret the law.

Just because they know its a way to thwart their system doesn't mean they have another "legal" way to collect the same data.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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With Fastmail you're essentially buying the app as much as the service. If you want reliable email service without the nice app, there are much cheaper alternatives.

Such as?

https://purelymail.com/ I haven't try it yet, but it is only 10$ per year

Re: Mozilla VPN

#337
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Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

I was just about to change to something different from LastPass, pretty much convinced about Bitwarden from previous HN mentions, until you mentioned Lockwise :-) care to share some pros and cons or comparison between these two?

I personally use 1Password due to it being better polished than Bitwarden and the support being excellent. I'm using it with Windows/Edge and haven't encountered any problems.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#338

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A lot of countries block access to websites. US and EU are not the whole world! VPN helps people to circumvent censorship. I use a VPN daily because without it, there is no Twitter/HackerNews/Reddit/Youtube/... .

Totally understood for those countries, but it’s still hugely popular in the US. That’s what I’m wondering about.

Biggest real usage I know of, and why people I know use VPNs, is piracy. I've never had my ISP send a letter about anything, but some people I know would get warnings pretty often. Some countries even make it a criminal matter. VPNs help reduce the risk.

And there are people who use it for more legal media consumption, like paying for a subscription-based service and the shows/movies they want to see are region locked.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#339
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Only Mozilla can make me pay for Google services like Email/Calendar etc. I think I subconsciously trust the brand more than most internet companies out there.

How about FastMail? They have a stellar email service. They also offer contacts and calendars, though I don't personally use those (I use iCloud for that).

Fastmail's domain feature is the killer app for me. I have my @firstandlast.com secured for $7/year or something, and I can make anything@firstandlast.com and if someone starts spamming me I can just block it.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#340

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How about FastMail? They have a stellar email service. They also offer contacts and calendars, though I don't personally use those (I use iCloud for that).

I’ve used Fastmail for years now on a work account. It’s best feature is that it’s not Google. First, no phone support. Hardly acceptable when even Google has this. Second, no collaboration suite like Drive/Docs. Third, no addons I’m accustomed to having in my daily driver email suite. Things I miss include schedule to send later, default reply all, and no priority inbox. Im stuck using Google for email and maps. I h…

I am happy with Fastmail too. Use it for more than 3 years and never look back. There is a hype about Hey mail recently but I won't buy it:

- It is more expensive than my current plan with Fastmail. Hey mail is 99$/year.

- As all of my current emails and contacts are in fastmail, I am not likely to switch to another providers. Also, because I am happy user, I don't see the need to switch.

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