The Return of the 90s Web

Post by zozbot234 » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 10:37 PM UTC

gpapilion wrote: post #32

untog wrote: post #18

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I think there's a lot of truth in what you're saying and the core problem is that we somehow decided there was one correct way to make a web site, and that was to use React. Are you creating a complex webapp? Use React. Go nuts! But are you making a mostly static page (blog, marketing site, whatever)? Then don't use React. It adds entirely unnecessary bloat and complication.

The industry has gone back and forth here forever between thick and thin clients, and I view this as an extension. Largely we all use thick clients now (PCs, phones, and things with way too much compute power), and the move to chrome or chromium based browsers made the behavior predictable. The pendulum swinging back is really an acknowledgement that the advantages provided client side rendering, don't always outweig…

Post by toast0 » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 10:43 PM UTC

ryanmarsh wrote: post #43

If we’re going back to the 90’s let this be your reminder we still don’t have something for web dev as easy to use as VB6.

Post by alphazino » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 10:49 PM UTC

zozbot234 wrote: post #61

gpapilion wrote: post #32

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The industry has gone back and forth here forever between thick and thin clients, and I view this as an extension. Largely we all use thick clients now (PCs, phones, and things with way too much compute power), and the move to chrome or chromium based browsers made the behavior predictable. The pendulum swinging back is really an acknowledgement that the advantages provided client side rendering, don't always outweig…

Except that phones have only gotten thinner and thinner since the 1990s... And PC's (laptops, at least) are not far behind.

Post by purerandomness » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 PM UTC

trimbo wrote: post #42

purerandomness wrote: post #5

I recently watched the "Helvetica" documentary that was posted here a few days ago [0], where they briefly mention "Grunge Typography" [1], a seemingly dead-end branch of typography that, for some strange reason, became pretty popular for a short period of time. After some years however, consensus amongst designers formed that what they've created was a pile of illegible garbage, and realized that there was no other…

> After some years however, consensus amongst designers formed that what they've created was a pile of illegible garbage Really? Citation needed? I guess I have never heard graphic designers say anything about David Carson except that he's one of the most innovative and influential designers in the past 30 years. IMO his graphic design was amazing and perfect for the context (music and surf magazines). I loved gettin…

Post by dragandj » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 10:53 PM UTC

kickscondor wrote: post #39

mtgp1000 wrote: post #28

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I think what you're saying about reduced barriers to entry has lowered the standard of all popular media. It used to be expensive to publish anything - especially the further back in time you go. So classics for example typically represent particularly bright writers, as having something published before the printing press, and widely disseminated, was simply unlikely to happen. But today anyone can create an account…

I don't quite follow - if low quality media is everywhere, doesn't high quality media stand out? Perhaps you're saying that so much low quality media drowns out the high quality media - such that it can't be found. The ratio is off, right?