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Re: Mozilla VPN

#141
Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad).

Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I think Mozilla is one of the foremost existing players to pull it off. They've started talking about Firefox Premium a while ago now [2] and it's obviously not easy to build all of this in a lean way, but I'll happily pitch in. If only to help make Firefox development less dependant on Google or Yahoo.

[1]: https://donate.mozilla.org/

[2]: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/10/18660344/firefox-subscrip...

Re: Mozilla VPN

#142

Every time someone mentions a VPN provider in my techie social circles, the "A VPN doesn't protect you" crowd piles in, usually with links to something like: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29 I don't understand this argument, but would like to. I run https://everytwoyears.org , a political non-profit focused on ending the warrantless metadata collection of U.S. citizens' communications. From every…

This is very totally legit that public VPN services are complete trash. Online anonymity is very hard. However, you can still create your own VPN server on cloud providers for at least have some privacy while you are on an untrusted network.

Because of this reason, I created zudvpn.com - It is a free and open-source mobile application that's used to deploy a private VPN server on major Cloud Providers!

Github repo: https://github.com/zudvpn/ZudVPN

Re: Mozilla VPN

#143
Public VPN services should not be trusted blindly. Online anonymity is very hard. However, you can still create your own VPN server on cloud providers for at least have some privacy while you are on an untrusted network.

Because of this reason, I created https://zudvpn.com - It is a free and open-source mobile application that's used to deploy a private VPN server on major Cloud Providers!

Github repo: https://github.com/zudvpn/ZudVPN

Re: Mozilla VPN

#144

> At Mozilla, we are working hard to build products to help you control of your privacy and stay safe online. > We know that we are on the right path to building a VPN that makes your online experience safer Commercial VPNs are good for censorship circumvention or location spoofing. It is irresponsible to market VPNs as something which “protects” you online. In reality, they do nothing to improve security, and very l…

> In reality, they do nothing to improve security

This is a bad take. I don't have the energy/time to go too in depth at the moment, but I've commented in more detail in the past. The short version:

- HTTPS isn't perfect, sites sometimes support old encryption protocols that can leak resource information. Most users aren't checking packets from native apps to ensure they're being sent over HTTPS, and browsers don't mark sites that are configured for old SSL/TLS versions as insecure.

- Most people aren't currently using encrypted DNS, and even as browsers like Firefox and Chrome move to turn it on by default, there will still be tons of older devices and native applications that lag behind.

- VPNs only encrypt your connection from you to the provider, but the space between you and the provider is the part that's most likely to be targeted by attackers. You are far more likely to accidentally send a plaintext POST request to an infected router than you are to be targeted by a nation-state actor on the open web.

- VPNs aren't just for hiding what sites you visit from your ISP, they're also for hiding your IP address. The linked claim that IP addresses are irrelevant is just outright wrong, IP addresses are extremely helpful for doxing, and sites like forums don't always secure them[0]. If you know my IP address, you'll be able to get surprisingly close to my real address.

A VPN on its own will not protect you or provide you with a noticeable privacy increase. And a VPN should not be the first thing you reach for if you're trying to improve your privacy. But if you're already using an adblocker, if you're already taking steps to mitigate tracking in Firefox, if you're already disabling Javascript on most sites, if you're already avoiding native apps that break the browser sandbox or engage in hardware tracking, you do eventually reach a point where your IP address is a concern you will want to address.

Ask yourself a few questions:

- If IP addresses don't actually matter for tracking, then why is TOR wasting so much time and energy trying to mask them?

- If masking an IP address doesn't provide any extra privacy, why do some services like Google Captcha penalize shared IP addresses?

- If IP addresses don't matter for tracking, why are so many sites using IP bans at all?

The answer is that IP addresses do matter, they're just not the only thing that matters.

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[0]: https://danshumway.com/blog/gamasutra-vulnerabilities/

Re: Mozilla VPN

#145
post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

I don't have much too add, I'm just replying in case Mozilla devs see this. I want this so much as well! I don't mind the VPN though. I pay for it now even though I run mostly Linux

Re: Mozilla VPN

#146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this take a lot. Serious question: doesn't the U.S. government surveillance program focus on collecting communication metadata for U.S. citizens? While it isn't clear what that metadata includes, we do have examples of past programs that have leaked (and the legal theory used to justify them) to guide us. Given what we publicly know about these surveillance programs I could see FISC approving bulk metadata coll…

If I were a government trying to gather metadata about web usage, the first thing I'd do is set up or acquire my own VPN company (and make it look convincing, of course).

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Re: Mozilla VPN

#147
post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

Only Mozilla can make me pay for Google services like Email/Calendar etc. I think I subconsciously trust the brand more than most internet companies out there.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#148
post #119

What good is a VPN if you have to reveal all of your personally identifiable information to the vendor? You're better off using Mullvad directly--it looks like they don't require you to fork over personal information to use their service. Shameless plug: SatoshiVPN ( https://satoshivpn.com ) gives you access to your own private and anonymous VPN server with Outline pre-installed, no questions asked. Payments in Bitco…

Can you comment on the pricing? Am I understanding correctly that 1 year of your VPN service costs $195 USD?

That's correct. Or, $1 for 1 day. Or, 1 hour for free.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#149

What good is a VPN if you have to reveal all of your personally identifiable information to the vendor? You're better off using Mullvad directly--it looks like they don't require you to fork over personal information to use their service. Shameless plug: SatoshiVPN ( https://satoshivpn.com ) gives you access to your own private and anonymous VPN server with Outline pre-installed, no questions asked. Payments in Bitco…

Might want to make pricing easier to find.

Acknowledged. Thank you!

Re: Mozilla VPN

#150

What good is a VPN if you have to reveal all of your personally identifiable information to the vendor? You're better off using Mullvad directly--it looks like they don't require you to fork over personal information to use their service. Shameless plug: SatoshiVPN ( https://satoshivpn.com ) gives you access to your own private and anonymous VPN server with Outline pre-installed, no questions asked. Payments in Bitco…

Assuming Mozilla isn't compelled by law to share it's entire database of user information on a rolling basis without a warrant, I suspect (in the U.S.) it would be somewhat effective at shielding yourself from bulk metadata collection (government mass surveillance) of your online communications by obfuscating that metadata. Compare this to your ISP and telecom providers. A subset of the larger providers willingly han…

You know what they say about assumptions.
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