Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by EvanAnderson » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 9:12 PM UTC

Advice to Young Web Developers
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Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by partyboat1586 » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 9:20 PM UTC

Unfortunately I think it's going to be a long time before web apps stop using dark patterns like infinite scroll. It's not good for their bottom line.

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by rickpmg » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:08 PM UTC

And make sure the back button works?

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by ithrow » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:13 PM UTC

This sounded more like a anti-SPA post. Maybe the title should be "Reasons for not building a SPA".

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by mroche » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:14 PM UTC

> Browsers change. Relying on browser-specific behavior means you’re relying on that one browser at that one point in time. Code to the standard, and test everywhere.

I wish this was listed at the top of the list, in the middle, and at the end. It’s super annoying when a site or application isn’t “supported” because it wasn’t tested in a separate browser (i.e. non-Chrome browsers).

I know it’s not always easy with a fair amount of nuance which the Chrome Compatibility post[0] touches on, but developing the web platform should be done openly, with the browser vendors working together to be compatible with each other and not introduce developer or user inconvenience. Otherwise you end up with web ownership and a fragmented platform.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23563525

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by flobosg » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:21 PM UTC

The source post (https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/2934-Advice-to-young-web-developer...) is a bit more readable. The list looks like, well, a list.

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by timw4mail » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:22 PM UTC

ithrow wrote: post #4

This sounded more like a anti-SPA post. Maybe the title should be "Reasons for not building a SPA".

SPAs are an anti-pattern.

Let's rebuild html rendering, navigation history, forms, etc, all with Javascript, because it's the hip thing to do.

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by inanutshellus » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:25 PM UTC

partyboat1586 wrote: post #2

Unfortunately I think it's going to be a long time before web apps stop using dark patterns like infinite scroll. It's not good for their bottom line.

With infinite scroll, there is no bottom line. /s

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by Grimm1 » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:26 PM UTC

timw4mail wrote: post #7

ithrow wrote: post #4

This sounded more like a anti-SPA post. Maybe the title should be "Reasons for not building a SPA".

SPAs are an anti-pattern. Let's rebuild html rendering, navigation history, forms, etc, all with Javascript, because it's the hip thing to do.

You're not using that word correctly, since this is not a pattern it's an architecture.

Please don't misuse words, especially in a negative context to mean "something I don't like", it cheapens the word in legitimate cases.

No comment on whether SPAs are worth anything though, I reserve my opinion.

Re: Advice to Young Web Developers

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 7:30 PM UTC

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