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Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by Jonnax »

haunter wrote: post #15

Every single time I start researching VPN services I end up more confused and with more questions than before because basically every vouched service has the same amount of negative comments too. Like feels like the whole sector is a honeypot (lol) of shady stuff and also they figthing against each other (or not?). So I just wait until when turns out Mullvad is also one of the bad guys.

Ask yourself why you want a VPN.

Is it to avoid your ISP collecting browsing data off you and selling it?

Perhaps using 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 as your DNS might be good enough.

Is it to watch geo region blocked videos?

Then pretty much any service will work for you. Except that video streaming sites have caught on and blocked hosting provider IP blocks. So that might require you to shop around.

Do you want the most privacy or want to get around blocking?

Then get a VM from a provider and configure a VPN to it. Wireguard works fine.

Want to do something illegal?

Don't expect a VPN to save you.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#24

Post by helloooooooo »

pipermerriam wrote: post #18
haunter wrote: post #15

Every single time I start researching VPN services I end up more confused and with more questions than before because basically every vouched service has the same amount of negative comments too. Like feels like the whole sector is a honeypot (lol) of shady stuff and also they figthing against each other (or not?). So I just wait until when turns out Mullvad is also one of the bad guys.

I use ProtonVPN. Same company as ProtonMail. Highly reputable with a business model around doing privacy and encryption well.

NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN. For that reason I find it sketchy.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#25

Post by numbsafari »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #20

Forget the VPN--I already have a VPN provider and I have no interest in changing. Offer a paid e-mail service, on the other hand, and I'd sign on up Day 1.

This right here. And a hosted suite of productivity tools that have documented, public formats that contain all of your data (and not just a link to the cloud-hosted copies).

Amazing that GSuite's only real competitor in 2020 in Office365.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#26

Post by badRNG »

haunter wrote: post #15

Every single time I start researching VPN services I end up more confused and with more questions than before because basically every vouched service has the same amount of negative comments too. Like feels like the whole sector is a honeypot (lol) of shady stuff and also they figthing against each other (or not?). So I just wait until when turns out Mullvad is also one of the bad guys.

I regularly think that claims of astroturfing are overblown, but it is common in the "privacy" focused industry to FUD competitors to gain market share.

I'm immediately reminded of some shady search engine CEO going on OAN and other fringe shows posing as a security researcher to spread FUD about DDG to drive traffic to his site (can't find the link for it now.) That OAN video even went around the security industry (among compliance and less technical folk) who were persuaded DDG was now worse than Google for consumer privacy.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#27

Post by solarkraft »

It's a rebranding of Mullvad. I'm happy with Mullvad itself, and while I think Firefox is the most important browser I'm not very happy about Mozilla arguably destroying its brand and seemingly pivoting away from maintaining it. I'd directly pay for the development of FF, but not Mozilla's "btw, we now sell $completely_unrelated_product_without_even_an_ethical_business_model".

They seem to be relatively safe from forking though, because apparently the code base is too much of a mess. Yay.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#28

Post by e12e »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #7
RandomBacon wrote: post #2

It uses Mullvad, and is the same price as Mullvad. I am assuming Mozilla gets a cut. When my current Mullvad subscription expires, I will switch over.

It's less flexible than Mullvad. This new service is Wireguard-only, and as far as I can tell, requires you to use their custom app. Mullvad additionally supports OpenVPN and other protocols, and is client-agnostic.

> Wireguard-only

That's great - less features and options are a plus for vpn services.

> requires you to use their custom app.

Sounds odd, if it's just using wireguard.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#29

Post by badRNG »

Jonnax wrote: post #22
haunter wrote: post #15

Every single time I start researching VPN services I end up more confused and with more questions than before because basically every vouched service has the same amount of negative comments too. Like feels like the whole sector is a honeypot (lol) of shady stuff and also they figthing against each other (or not?). So I just wait until when turns out Mullvad is also one of the bad guys.

Ask yourself why you want a VPN. Is it to avoid your ISP collecting browsing data off you and selling it? Perhaps using 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 as your DNS might be good enough. Is it to watch geo region blocked videos? Then pretty much any service will work for you. Except that video streaming sites have caught on and blocked hosting provider IP blocks. So that might require you to shop around. Do you want the most priva…

>Want to do something illegal? Don't expect a VPN to save you.

I'm not condoning piracy, but VPNs are generally a foolproof way to avoid DMCA letters from your ISP. Privacy means something different to every individual, everyone's threat model is different. And many models can benefit from a VPN; journalists, activists, and many others might find benefit from using a VPN.

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