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Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Press the little button in the titlebar that makes any window fill the screen. Note that tabs will appear in the titlebar when maximized on Windows only, for Firefox 4, and only if you have the menu bar hidden. (It's hidden by default in Windows Vista and 7.) Tabs in the titlebar are planned for Mac and Linux too, but weren't ready for this release.

For whatever reason, the voters seem to think I didn't try that before commenting. FF4 does not behave as described on my WinXP box at work.

Hm, don't know what to say. Perhaps disable the menu bar. That did it for me.

Here's what firefox 4 looks like running on windows XP: http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/460/20110322144851800x600...

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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I'd like to try to switch a browser, if I see a simple and cool sync-from-chrome (google account) feature. maybe I don't really need one, and maybe I can use some XML thingy for it, but I'm too lazy

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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* Faster startup, more responsive, faster JavaScript with the new Jaegermonkey JIT. * New, less cluttered UI. * Built-in sync of bookmarks/tabs/history/passwords, fully encrypted on the client (unlike Chrome's sync which encrypts passwords only). * Sync your bookmarks, tabs, history, passwords, and form data to Firefox for Android! See also this thread for answers from various members of the Firefox team: http://www.…

Does it finally store passwords in Keychain?

No, sadly, it does not, and the Keychain Integration add-on isn't compatible with FF 4 yet.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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FF4 is really fast and responsive, as advertised! Awesome work guys!

Pardon me if this is a silly question, but I really love the tab UI feeling that I get in Chromium (the looks, the curves, etc.) Given that other projects like Kod.app already copy that feature, is it possible for Firefox to incorporate it as well?

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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* Faster startup, more responsive, faster JavaScript with the new Jaegermonkey JIT. * New, less cluttered UI. * Built-in sync of bookmarks/tabs/history/passwords, fully encrypted on the client (unlike Chrome's sync which encrypts passwords only). * Sync your bookmarks, tabs, history, passwords, and form data to Firefox for Android! See also this thread for answers from various members of the Firefox team: http://www.…

Does it finally store passwords in Keychain?

Since Fx3, there is that add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/keychain-serv...

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Disabling hardware acceleration worked for me. I'm on Windows 7, and now, with it disabled, it looks like Cleartype is working as it should. With hardware acceleration enabled, it looks like Cleartype isn't working, but Firefox doing its own anti-aliasing, and doing a worse job of it. Does that sound reasonable?

With hardware acceleration, Windows DirectWrite is handling the text rendering. Unfortunately, there are bugs in many graphics drivers that interfere with this.

Update after talking to Mozilla graphics hacker Joe Drew:

What I wrote above used to be true, but in current versions of Windows/Firefox these bugs have been fixed, and what you're seeing is probably the intended rendering.

The reason it looks blurry is that Microsoft's accelerated DirectWrite API uses different font rendering than the old GDI API. The DirectWrite rendering is less agressively hinted, and looks more like Mac OS X font rendering.

If you don't like the look of the text rendering on our system, try: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearType/tuner/tune.asp...

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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I have been using Chrome for 6 months now. What I liked about Chrome: optimized usage of vertical space and speed. But what I really disliked about it -- Chrome add-ons are useless. Chrome would never allow something like Firebug without being built-in. And I couldn't find a plugin with proper Delicious integration either. Also, searching the history in the address bar works a lot better in Firefox -- probably has so…

Why do you say that Firefox 4 is not as vertical-space efficient as Chrome? Right click on your tabs, and select 'Tabs on top'. Right click on the Menu bar and uncheck 'Menu bar'. Done--looks like Chrome!

No, it doesn't look like Chrome. There's still a title bar that Chrome hides in the maximized mode.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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I started using Firefox again the day I heard about the 4.0 Release Candidate, and thought I could give it a another try after it failed to convince me the few times I tried to use it in the past. I was pleasently surprised. The browser's way faster; launching it doesn't take that much time; the UI is way more responsive; and all the add-ons I've been using in the past are compatible with 4.0 (Web Developer, Firebug,…

> The browser's way faster; That's awesome. Maybe I can go back to using firefox instead of chrome.

The beta 4 was almost faster than chrome in fact.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

#260

To everybody asking what Firefox has that Chrome lacks: The Awesomebar. I haven't seen it mentioned here but it's by far the thing I miss the most from FF (along with FireBug and TreeStyle Tabs). It practically replaces bookmarks for me because because it searches through the history. In Chrome it feels like I have to re-google everything unless I remember the exact url.

This is a good point that I've only noticed recently. Address bar completion in Chrome is much much worse than in Firefox.

Yeah, I really miss Firefox URL keyword search. Too bad it becomes very slow as your history grows (at least in the older versions of FF).
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