Scoble also wrote about convofoy yesterday. Seems like another cool project.
FYI for others looking for this project: it's "Convofy".
MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
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Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
So how much would you pay for personal use? It seems almost impossible to sell any web app for personal use.
How is that impossible?
How many examples of web apps can you give me, which are being sold directly to consumers for personal use? By personal use, I mean not for use at or for work. I can barely think of a handful and even those are quite often paid for by the buyer's employer as a perk or productivity investment.
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#23I have a similar side project. How do you guys respond to seeing something similar launched? Assure yourself that you have better execution?
I personally would not be able to convince myself that my side project's execution is /better/ than something MetaLab (or any of the many companies I admire) built, but certainly it would be better suited to my personal itches.
That is not intended to be a comment on your execution though, I don't know what you've built.
What I would try to do is refine the niche that I am satisfying. There are a ton of task management applications out there, which means that there is a large number of ways people like to track and do their tasks, which means that something that solves your particular problems very well is going to satisfy more.
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#24Flow is a great product and emphasizes the "ship sooner, rather than later" model. They had a set goal in mind, and with a relatively small team, managed to create a family of amazing apps in a short space of time. Kudos! Asana and any company that has 2-3 year development cycles could learn a lot from MetaLab.
Not true Oliver... They've been working on Flow for at least 2 years.
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
So how much would you pay for personal use? It seems almost impossible to sell any web app for personal use.
What's the reasoning behind 'almost impossible'? A price point of $40/2-to-4-users, or even $40/year, is much more thinkable for individuals/families than $120/year/person. From the screenshots, it seems like it should be possible to have a cheaper capped-to-a-small-set-of-collaborators version that a family of 3-6 could use, but still charge business prices for more/arbitrary collaborators and other features. (I hav…
Do families pay recurring fees for web apps? Apart from some high-quality photo sharing apps, I can't think of any examples.
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#26Flow is a great product and emphasizes the "ship sooner, rather than later" model. They had a set goal in mind, and with a relatively small team, managed to create a family of amazing apps in a short space of time. Kudos! Asana and any company that has 2-3 year development cycles could learn a lot from MetaLab.
Not true Oliver... They've been working on Flow for at least 2 years.
Not true. We've been working on it for just over a year.
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
So how much would you pay for personal use? It seems almost impossible to sell any web app for personal use.
I pay $12/month each for GitHub and Harvest, both for personal use.
By personal use, I mean not using it for work. You may be using Github purely for personal use, but Harvest is clearly for business.
Do you pay for any other apps?
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the reasoning behind 'almost impossible'? A price point of $40/2-to-4-users, or even $40/year, is much more thinkable for individuals/families than $120/year/person. From the screenshots, it seems like it should be possible to have a cheaper capped-to-a-small-set-of-collaborators version that a family of 3-6 could use, but still charge business prices for more/arbitrary collaborators and other features. (I hav…
Do families pay recurring fees for web apps? Apart from some high-quality photo sharing apps, I can't think of any examples.
MobileMe, Geni
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#29As a user of Flow for the past few weeks, I've been blown away by its UI and usefulness. Unfortunately, the pricing seems a bit steep for personal use. I'd also like to see some clarity on how pricing works with groups of people.
I respectfully call this a ridiculous proposition. How is $10/mo expensive for this, or for anything in life?
It seems to me Flow pricing is learning a valuable lesson from MobileMe: if it's useful, people will pay.
Re: MetaLab launches "Flow" Asana competitor
#30This looks extremely similar to Things...
It does. It's also way more money. If you don't need the collaborative stuff, I don't see how it's worth it.