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Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by franze »

> Mignori is a client for Image Board websites (we informally call “Boorus”). These image boards are popular in the anime community, although there can be image boards for anything you can think of.

I just googled this, found some references to the anime image boards. Most were Hentai / Porn. If the main purpose of an app is viewing adult content, its main purpose is viewing adult content - even if you have to add the ressources yourself. (I might be wrong, I don't have a clue about the Boorus community).

So prop. Apples "Freedom from Porn"approach?

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by noir_lord »

0-O-0 wrote: post #58
bsaul wrote: post #9

This kind of post infuriates me. As an iOS developer for 10 years, i can guarantee you that there are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of stories like that, with people getting shut down for no good reason, and having their business killed. It's now so bad people are refraining from trying out innovative business model or apps just because they think there could be a chance someone at apple validation wouldn't li…

I wish the Hey story makes people realise that we can't depend on benevolence of two corporations and should be working on open platforms.

Open platforms are great (and they are, I say this as a Fedora user who just finished an install via dnf'ing all the things) but they lack the money which translates to marketing that large corporations have, it's not a case of a level playing field, we are playing two different games on entirely different fields and ours is mostly uphill.

When your opposition has an absolute chokehold on major markets it's a near unassailable position - throw in that the vast vast majority of users simply don't care whether an app store is open or not or know why they should care - attention is finite and the only way things will improve is if governments lead it and well see my earlier paragraph about who has the money...

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

And Apple is not even an isolated case.

Google will close gmail accounts, take away adsense revenues, or remove youtube videos on a whim.

Visa blocked users from giving their money to political causes they decided didn't aligned with their view of the world.

For years Microsoft made it super hard to buy hardware without paying the Windows licence. They killed xbox remotely. They have invasive telemetry in Win 10.

Paypal may refuse to pay the money you have on their account at any moment. Your money, no appeal.

Twitter and facebook censorship rules are on a case by case basis. If your famous, you may be able to use hate speech. I you are an anonymous political activist, China may ask for your shut down.

Big companies exist to make money. If they get too much power, they will abuse it. Not because they are evil, but because it's the logical thing to do for them.

This is why I was advocating in another comment that we should not use WhatsApp new payment system:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23553455

Thinking about the power we give to big entities is a central mechanism to build the society we live on. That's why we should think about what we buy, the media we consumme, etc.

They are votes, just as much as during an election.

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by LatteLazy »

You get the same thing with YouTube creators (plus they get bogus or spurious copyright flags with the same result). If we're going to have these big platforms (and I'd include Steam, Amazon, YouTube etc) then we need to have legislation giving their clients basic, non-waivable rights to a quick and independent review and reasonable treatment. Sadly the law seems to be headed in the opposite direction (requiring platforms to do more "moderation").

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by worthless-trash »

redis_mlc wrote: post #59
worthless-trash wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it'd be financial suicide to not be on the App Store. I find it amusing that people and businesses are willing to put their future in the hands of a company that has historically destroyed anyone who gets enough users on their platform. If this is the best option, I think that the best option would be to actively work with a platform competitor. Do developers have a sense of stockholm syndrome ?

What's your alternative, since there isn't any, except to completely change your industry or business model? iOS users are known to pay for apps they like. Android users less so.

You've made up your mind then.

Bite down hard, because that whip's coming.

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by enriquto »

bsaul wrote: post #9

This kind of post infuriates me. As an iOS developer for 10 years, i can guarantee you that there are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of stories like that, with people getting shut down for no good reason, and having their business killed. It's now so bad people are refraining from trying out innovative business model or apps just because they think there could be a chance someone at apple validation wouldn't li…

> This kind of post infuriates me.

Apple's callous "walled garden" practices have always been well known. Honestly, developers who continue to participate in this shitshow had it coming.

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by paganel »

franze wrote: post #61

> Mignori is a client for Image Board websites (we informally call “Boorus”). These image boards are popular in the anime community, although there can be image boards for anything you can think of. I just googled this, found some references to the anime image boards. Most were Hentai / Porn. If the main purpose of an app is viewing adult content, its main purpose is viewing adult content - even if you have to add th…

In that case they should ban browsers, too (which in a way they do, there's a de-facto WebKit monopoly on iOS).

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by sabujp »

franze wrote: post #61

> Mignori is a client for Image Board websites (we informally call “Boorus”). These image boards are popular in the anime community, although there can be image boards for anything you can think of. I just googled this, found some references to the anime image boards. Most were Hentai / Porn. If the main purpose of an app is viewing adult content, its main purpose is viewing adult content - even if you have to add th…

yea i had a feeling it was going towards this...
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