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Wow! That's very surprising. It's been a while since I lived without fibre; maybe DOCSIS got a lot smarter in the last few years?
It hasn't in the US. Comcast's 1G down is still 10Mbit up
Mine is 35. Still terrible.
AWS Snowcone
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For a sense of scale, my company used an AWS Snowmobile to transfer 100PB of archived satellite imagery to AWS. More details here: https://blog.maxar.com/earth-intelligence/2017/digitalglobe-...
What was the premium of storing the data in S3 as opposed to keeping it in your own tape warehouse? Definitely curious about the cost benefits!
S3 Glacier Deep Archive is probably the closest to a tape warehouse, at the standard rate it would cost $99000/month to store 100PB of data.
$0.00099 per GB per month * 100,000,000 GB = $99000
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Maybe I'm a germophobe, but isn't it kind of gross that this thing is shipped in no container and then put on your desk? How long do germs last on an e-ink display? I know on paper and cardboard and such it's not very long. From what I can remember, they die while still in the mail stream. If you're concerned, hit it with some Lysol or soap and water.
I think parent commenter isn't just worried about the e-ink display, but the general fact that the entire device itself is going to be sitting in dirty shipping containers, warehouses, trucks, etc without any kind of covering. I know I've gotten some shipments before that have stains of who-knows-what-liquid soaked into the cardboard. I'm not a germophobe, but even so, this probably isn't a device you want to be hand…
I’m a germaphobe but it’s probably not worse than say reading a postcard, or putting your laptop in an airport bin, or your backpack under an airliner seat where people put their feet
Re: AWS Snowcone
#174> The AMIs must be made from an instance launched from a CentOS or Ubuntu product in AWS Marketplace
I wonder what's special about these images.
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#175I must not interact with big enough data to understand, but what is the point of this? I have watched/read several of the Snow product descriptions from AWS and I am still not quite sure I understand the point. It seems like a way to sync local big data to AWS cloud storage for data that is too large to realistically transfer via the internet. So is this simply a sneakernet external harddrive because physically shipp…
its physical edge storage, wasn't the use case clear? you can have the cloud right next to you! an entire node of a content distribution network, by itself in your rugged remote environment, but with you!
you can cloud compute separated from the cloud, but together, with your snowcone!
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#176I'm in the process of starting an ISP right now, so I've just been getting prices for dedicated fibre lines. So let's do some quick math.
A 1Gbps dedicated (uncontended) fibre line in Europe seems to be in the region of $/€/£600 per month. How much data can one push on that per day (assuming 1Gbit/s = 100Mb/s real world)?
In one day: 100 * 60 * 60 * 24 = 8.64Tb
So call it one snowcone per day. So you could in theory send 30 snowcones a month, a total snowcone value of $60*30 = $1800.
However, at $60/snowcone, you would have to send 10 snowcones per month before your own dedicated line breaks even.
So yeah, if you're sending 10 or more per month, every month, consider getting a dedicated line. But that seems like an unusual use case to me.
There's also a bunch of organisational reasons to use something like snowcone, I'm sure.
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#177I must not interact with big enough data to understand, but what is the point of this? I have watched/read several of the Snow product descriptions from AWS and I am still not quite sure I understand the point. It seems like a way to sync local big data to AWS cloud storage for data that is too large to realistically transfer via the internet. So is this simply a sneakernet external harddrive because physically shipp…
For a sense of scale, my company used an AWS Snowmobile to transfer 100PB of archived satellite imagery to AWS. More details here: https://blog.maxar.com/earth-intelligence/2017/digitalglobe-...
For a sense of the world, I went to Manila in 2018 to find out why there are several distributor can only sent their data weekly.
One of the distributor show me a 64 MB usb flashdisk that’s travelled every week with the delivery truck to get 4 MB of data from their branches (8 hours truck driving from the capital)
Went to Myanmar in 2017. The nation is just upgrading to 4G in 2016. But not every places have 4G coverage
2019 in eastern Indonesia (Seram island) you’re lucky if you can get a reliable 5 KB/s internet. It’s a remote area, but we still have a branch there :(
Re: AWS Snowcone
#178At the first glance, I thought Amazon ship Kindle to customer with storage as a bonus.
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#179I think that local storage of personal data ("data most important to you") will be a huge trend in the next few years for both homes and offices, especially if they can back up data to other trusted devices (in other homes and offices of trusted people). As always the problem is going to be usability - the AWS ecosystem is not friendly to non-techies.
I actually think it's not so unfriendly. I have a stock trader friend who keeps all of his transaction records in S3 buckets, and he's not a 'techie'. It's akin to having an understanding in file system - just that it's in the cloud this time. I'm sure a lot of non-techie understand enough about file systems to work what they needed it to do. And the same goes for the cloud.
I wish people would stop thinking of S3 as a filesystem because it isn't, and in ways that can cause serious issues. I can't tell you how many questions I get from devs asking "how do I rename a file in S3?" You can't. They're not files. It's not a filesystem. The folders you see on the web interface are just sugar, but if you have only a superficial knowledge of S3, you might be tricked into believing it behaves like a filesystem.
S3 is an eventually-consistent object store. We need to treat it as such.
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#180The e-ink display part triggers thoughts of an Amazon of the future that uses entirely reusable boxes to ship things to consumers. Hard plastic containers w/ e-ink labels. Boom, no more millions (billions? trillions?) of cardboard/plastic boxes used to enclose packages. Still millions/billions/trillions of boxes/plastic packaging for the items themselves, but at least the transit envelope would be reusable.
They tried reusable plastic boxes for Amazon stuff in Seattle years ago. It was a pretty colossal failure. People just kept the plastic boxes and used them for stuff around the house.
"Bill the people who keep the plastic boxes," is the oft-heard refrain!
What if they're stolen off your porch due to living in a not-great neighborhood? You still owe?