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> Maybe not so good for those who were especially attached to either the vibrant city life or busy office life. I don't understand this reasoning. Was city life not vibrant when rents were 1/3rd the price? If anything, "hypergentrification" tends to have a sterilizing effect on city life. To be honest I'm kinda looking forward to it. Nothing against HENRYs (High earners, not rich yet)... but their "cultural tastes" a…
Maybe this sounds strange, but I think there is also a category of people who prefer suburbs or exurbs and are really bitter that the pendulum has swung back to cities in the last ~20 years. They are really eager to see a trend out of small amounts of data. Or proclaim urban life dead, now and forever. I personally feel strongly in the other direction. We had the infamous "white flight" and car-centric communities an…
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Can you expand the acronym HENRYs? Urban dictionary didn't come up with anything for me.
"High earners, not rich yet (HENRYs) are individuals who currently have significant discretionary income and a strong chance of being wealthy in the future." The previous (somewhat derogatory) term was "Yuppie" ("young urban professional" or "young, upwardly-mobile professional") [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuppie
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#243"across the US" as in "in expensive coastal cities." I don't know the broader trend but, anecdotally, I know people who have/are in the process of moving out of cities for more rural locations. One couple I know just moved out of a major Northeast city to the coast of Maine. Others are seriously considering vacating NYC etc. With many tech industry jobs mostly WFH until the end of the year and the future in general u…
"Expensive" and "coastal" are critical caveats. Looking at the full Zumper report ( https://www.zumper.com/blog/rental-price-data/ ), there are surprisingly high year-over-year increases in a lot of other metro areas: Arizona sees nearly 8% increases in both Scottsdale and Tucson; Austin, TX is up almost 7% while even California has seen sizable increases in its second-tier cities like Sacramento (7%) and Bakersfield…
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#244Seems silly to discuss the falling rental prices in prestigious cities without even a nod to AirBNB. AirBNB rentals have collapsed , and so a lot of owners have moved their properties into conventional long-term rental. This has created a glut in the rental market, and is driving prices down. https://www.straight.com/news/some-vancouver-airbnb-units-ar...
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#245That doesn't sound like much of a discount, what, 5%? Without moving, I got 40% off my rent for six months in the middle of London. I'd encourage tenants who haven't asked for a discount yet to do so.
What do you say? 'Give me a discount or...' or what? You'll move out? Sounds like moving would out be an absolute nightmare at the moment. Are you going to go flat-hunting in the middle of a pandemic?
I haven't done it because they've been good landlord, but at the same time I'm paying an insane rent (I live in SF) for a pretty average 1 bedroom...
But what if rent continues to decrease, can't ask twice.
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#246LOL say's California! I have seen steady rent prices and decreasing housing prices.
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What do you say? 'Give me a discount or...' or what? You'll move out? Sounds like moving would out be an absolute nightmare at the moment. Are you going to go flat-hunting in the middle of a pandemic?
I've thought about reaching out to my landlords and ask if they would "consider aligning with the current market". I haven't done it because they've been good landlord, but at the same time I'm paying an insane rent (I live in SF) for a pretty average 1 bedroom... But what if rent continues to decrease, can't ask twice.
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The problem with suburbs is they don’t allow kids to get any amount of independence because they must be driven everywhere by their parents. I moved from a US suburb to a small city in Europe when I was 12 and it was liberating. I could suddenly walk or bike downtown alone.
Downtown of our small 130k town is a mile walk. We can walk to many things. We are still considered suburban. Further out and walking to shops is less plausible. But then you have lots of nature to wak around
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Personally I miss the dives, the open mic nights, the hole-in-the-wall restaurants that have been slowly getting replaced with gleaming Ikea-fever-dream "fast-casual artisan eateries" and the like. (If I'm being honest the latter have a certain appeal to me too, but I think it's a travesty when they supplant things that are irreplaceably more human)
LA is actually good for this, because despite a few rich neighborhoods, it’s primarily an immigrant and working class city. I grew up in the Midwest, which people romanticize as the real America, small town life, etc. But now it’s mostly strip malls, chain stores, and deranged, adversarial politics. In LA, by contrast, I could find a small, locally-owned business for just about any service or need and people were fri…
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I agree. Albany, El Cerrito, select parts of Richmond, and most of Berkeley are fabulous. I looked at an apartment recently with my gf in Berkeley that would have cut my commute in half. We didn’t take it because it was too small for us and our pets, but, damn, did we try to talk ourselves into it for a bit.
C'mon over to Rockridge or Elmwood -- especially if you're thinking of having kids!