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Covid-19: The T Cell Story

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The amount of frustrations surrounding all of this is mind numbing. I almost expect we will get vaccinations before we get understanding.

And I share that call-out in this article that not knowing is not a claim that things aren't working. I just expand it as not a claim that some things have worked. We need more studies that will frustratingly take time.

Re: Covid-19: The T Cell Story

#5
Kind of shows how little we know about the human immune system. Hopefully this pans out and we won’t see massive new waves. I have an anecdotal example of that this might be something. A friend and his wife got tested before delivering their baby and she was positive for antibodies and he was negative. He might have just beaten the virus before the body even started creating antibodies.

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The author asks some questions which can be answered by gathering some data.

This suggests going back and re-testing for antibodies some populations from tightly packed groups - the cruise ship passengers, warship crew, and nursing home residents. The antibody tests are more accurate than they were two months ago. The key here is to find out how many people, definitely exposed to the virus, not only did not show any symptoms, but did not develop antibodies. That group presumably had some form of pre-existing immunity.

Is anybody doing something like that?

Re: Covid-19: The T Cell Story

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> And wherever we look, infections level off before 10%-20% of the population is infected. This is somewhat mysterious.

This is not really true.

Bergamo had a 58% infection rate as of last month: https://bergamo.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/20_maggio_22/ber...

Several prisons have seen infection rates in the 70-80% range: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...

The USS Theodore Roosevelt had an infection rate of 60%: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6923e4.htm?s_cid=mm...

A better explanation for the leveling off is simply that social distancing and lockdowns have reduced the spread of the virus.

Re: Covid-19: The T Cell Story

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> And wherever we look, infections level off before 10%-20% of the population is infected. This is somewhat mysterious. This is not really true. Bergamo had a 58% infection rate as of last month: https://bergamo.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/20_maggio_22/ber... Several prisons have seen infection rates in the 70-80% range: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0... The USS Theodore Roosevelt had an…

Also this Washington choir where over 80% of the attendants were infected

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-superspreader-singing.h...

This article is just wishful thinking.

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