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Re: AWS Snowcone

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post #117

It's very tangential but what is the device shown next to the drive in the first picture? https://media.amazonwebservices.com/blog/2020/snowcone_jb_st... I assumed it was here to give a sense of the relative size of the drive, but after staring at this picture for two minutes I genuinely have no idea what it is. Actually at first I even wondered if that was the drive, since it's vaguely more in the shape of a snowcon…

It's a water bottle

Re: AWS Snowcone

#122
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At $6/day it's fairly expensive for non-temporary workloads.

Or you could pay the $2,000 lost device fee.

I'm guessing the devices marked as lost don't continue to function (at least not once they connect to the internet again)

Re: AWS Snowcone

#123
post #117

It's very tangential but what is the device shown next to the drive in the first picture? https://media.amazonwebservices.com/blog/2020/snowcone_jb_st... I assumed it was here to give a sense of the relative size of the drive, but after staring at this picture for two minutes I genuinely have no idea what it is. Actually at first I even wondered if that was the drive, since it's vaguely more in the shape of a snowcon…

Water bottle or thermos?

Re: AWS Snowcone

#124
post #117

It's very tangential but what is the device shown next to the drive in the first picture? https://media.amazonwebservices.com/blog/2020/snowcone_jb_st... I assumed it was here to give a sense of the relative size of the drive, but after staring at this picture for two minutes I genuinely have no idea what it is. Actually at first I even wondered if that was the drive, since it's vaguely more in the shape of a snowcon…

I thought the same thing, to my embarrassment.

Re: AWS Snowcone

#125
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The speed is questionable in many countries where consumer internet connections already have 500mbit upload speed. But in the US I think bandwidth can be quite limited if you're not in a major city with fiber. The other big part is pricing. AWS charges $ 0.09 per GB for outbound transfer, so getting 8 TB of data out of AWS via the internet costs over $ 700. Doing it through Snowcone costs around $ 300 + shipping. Rea…

Can you transfer data out of AWS with Snowcone? I thought it was all transfer in, which is free.

You can transfer out, but you pay the similarly insane egress costs. Somewhat cheaper, but still bonkers.

Snowball/snowcone, US East

$0.03 per GB ~-> $300 per 10TB

If you're buying disks at scale that's almost the cost of the disk.

Network egress

$0.15 per GB

$0.08 per GB (>150TB/month)

It makes sense for the occassional transfer so you're not paying for expensive EBS storage for stuff you don't need cloud access to.

Re: AWS Snowcone

#126

The e-ink display part triggers thoughts of an Amazon of the future that uses entirely reusable boxes to ship things to consumers. Hard plastic containers w/ e-ink labels. Boom, no more millions (billions? trillions?) of cardboard/plastic boxes used to enclose packages. Still millions/billions/trillions of boxes/plastic packaging for the items themselves, but at least the transit envelope would be reusable.

That's a cool idea. I wonder how many re-uses a box like that would take to make it cost effective over the same amount of cardboard. Should be feasible I'd think.

Re: AWS Snowcone

#127

I must not interact with big enough data to understand, but what is the point of this? I have watched/read several of the Snow product descriptions from AWS and I am still not quite sure I understand the point. It seems like a way to sync local big data to AWS cloud storage for data that is too large to realistically transfer via the internet. So is this simply a sneakernet external harddrive because physically shipp…

I recently listened to an interview with the editorial team of Deadliest Catch (Art of the Cut #51). I could see this product being used by similar media productions where thousands of hours of film footage is generated in remote locations with low uplink speeds. Instead of shipping the drives all the way to the post-production house, the drives could be ingested at the nearest AWS facility.

Re: AWS Snowcone

#128
post #46

This must be where all the traded-in Kindle screens are going. I was surprised Amazon was willing to pay me $25 for my 7-year-old Kindle, but I guess it's cheaper than manufacturing new eInk displays. Maybe I'm a germophobe, but isn't it kind of gross that this thing is shipped in no container and then put on your desk?

Is it dishwasher safe?

The water in a dishwasher can get up to 60C, which is above the maximum storage temperature of most consumer electronics.

Re: AWS Snowcone

#129

AWS Snowcone pricing here: https://aws.amazon.com/snowcone/pricing/

Hmm. A $2,000 loss fee.

I sure hope they don't use Amazon delivery. They'll deliver stuff to other houses, complete with a "delivery proof" picture of the wrong house and claim that you must have lost it.

Re: AWS Snowcone

#130
post #112

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Those are all really good points. I'm interested in hearing more about the NTFS quirks - what kind of issues were cropping up? Now I'm really curious what filesystem Snowball wound up standardizing on, and how/if file metadata/ACLs/alternate data streams are maintained.

Do those even matter if the final file destination is S3?

It's mostly a technical curiosity to me. Although maybe they would if you're using it in a system backup/archive workflow?
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