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Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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post #188

I have been looking to upgrade my aging U2412m's for some time. But 16:10 is dead; so why bother? it might only be a little horizontal space but it's a huge difference to not have it. Thankfully recent laptops are returning to 16:10 (Macbook's and Dell XPS's) But monitors still do not seem to exist.

MacBooks never left 16:10, thank god...

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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More than 5 years ago, I bought two 24" 4k monitors from Dell (UP2414Q), with a PPI of ~180 (and sitting over a foot away), they give me a retina experience with my desktop. They were an early product from Dell, so despite great picture quality, they are buggy and have large bezels.

This week, one of them failed. While looking for a replacement, I was expecting the range of 24" "retina" displays to have improved somewhat. Surprisingly, it seems the opposite has happened. Dell no longer make an Ultrasharp range 24" monitor with 4k, everything is now 27".

Although they do make a 'P' series equivalent, it's an old model released around the same time as my original ones, with similar bugs and early hardware (no 4k 60hz HDMI)

27" is sadly too large for me to fit two side-by-side on my desk (and even if they would fit, 27" is too large for my liking).

Now I'm left struggling to find a replacement, I may have to live with downgrading to something like 120 PPI with a 2k (1440p) 25" display.

It's sad that retina really hasn't caught on much in the desktop monitor space, we should really have 3k as a standard resolution for smaller desktop monitors.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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post #139

I found this article utterly baffling. The author clearly knows their stuff, having created Fira Code, but my experiences couldn't be more different. I spend most of my days in a text browser, text editor and text terminal, looking at barely moving letters. So I optimize my setup to showing really, really good letters. I certainly appreciate how nice text looks on a high DPI display. But for coding purposes!? I don't…

Well, it's really about personal preference and while I know a couple of collegues with your preference, I feel it's the minority. I take two 16:9 screens over one 3840x1600 screen anytime. No need to setup some additional inner-mintor split-window management. Split-monitor management and workspaces works very well and I can even turn the 2nd monitor off, when I don't need it and want full focus mode (i.e. reading).…

The benefit of a 3840x1600 screen over two monitors with lower resolution is that 3840/2 = 1920 and 3840/3 = 1280. Those are horizontal resolutions for 1080p and 720p respectively. The fact that these are standard resolutions means basically every app works as designed regardless of whether you have 2 or 3 windows side by side. This isn't true for ultrawides with resolutions like 3440x1440 that don't divide cleanly into other standard resolutions.

The default software that comes with the Dell mentioned above handles everything. If I want to simulate two 1080p monitors, I just do the standards Windows drag to the side of the screen. If I want to simulate three 720p monitors I can press shift while dragging and that tells the Dell software to take over. It is more versatile than having individual monitors.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Regarding the "120Hz dance", which sure is ridiculous, the author could probably give the nice little tool "SwitchResX" a try. I adore that piece of software because it allowed me to force my MacBook to properly supply my Dell U2711, which is a 2560x1440 display, with an actual 2560x1440x60Hz signal over HDMI (which was important to me because I needed the DP port for something else).

That older monitor has some kind of firmware bug or maybe it's a wrong profile in MacOS or whatever, which makes it advertise a maximum of 2560x1440x30Hz or 1920x1080x60Hz to the Mac when connected via HDMI (DP works fine out-of-the-box), effectively preventing me from choosing native resolution at maximum refresh rate. I haven't been able to make MacOS override this limitation in any way using the common OS-native tricks, but SwitchResX can somehow force any custom resolution and refresh rate to be used, and the monitor is apparently able to deal with it just fine, so I've been running this setup for years now with no complaints whatsoever.

Also no manual work was ever needed after display disconnect/reconnect or MacOS reboot. I had problems once after a MacOS update, which required a SwitchResX update for it to be working again, but other than that I'm in love with this nifty low-level tool.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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post #47

After using a rMBP for 6 years, I realized that using a lower resolution and lower quality display makes absolutely no sense at all if both graphical power and budget is available (first 13' rMBP had some serious issue driving the display). Better quality image is better quality image. I think Apple's biggest selling point over any vendor right now, despite numerous issues with its hardware and software in the recent…

For the trackpad I agree, but definitely not for the keyboard. And apple was late(!) to hires screens and to hidpi and now has lower res and density than the competition (e.g. 16:10 better 4k on dell xps or 3:2 screens with MS and others). Also, apple had TN screens forever when the similarly priced competition had higher res IPS screens.

>Also, apple had TN screens forever when the similarly priced competition had higher res IPS screens.

As far as I am aware Apple only used TN screen for their MacBook Air. They were also the first to push Retina / Hi PPI Display on Consumer PC.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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I've found my journey through tooling evolution to be fascinating (to me at least). When I was new and coding was slow, my worries were about so many other things (like how the language even worked) than even what text editor I used, let alone the monitor. As I became experienced, a lot of newbie problems went away and the next topmost problems emerged, leading to be obsessing over text editor, shortcuts, and even a…

Some of my colleagues love a vertical monitor for writing and reading documents.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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post #188

I have been looking to upgrade my aging U2412m's for some time. But 16:10 is dead; so why bother? it might only be a little horizontal space but it's a huge difference to not have it. Thankfully recent laptops are returning to 16:10 (Macbook's and Dell XPS's) But monitors still do not seem to exist.

MacBooks never left 16:10, thank god...

I seem to recall my macbook (2011) being 16:9, but it turns out 1280x800 is actually 16:10!

It seems you're right for the retinas and upwards too, that's heartening[0]

[0] https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/4/19/17027286/l...

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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post #171
post #76

The technical details are all right (or seem right to me, anyway), but this is too opinionated for my liking. No, you do not need a 4K monitor for software development. Some people might like them, some won't. [edit/clarification: someone rightfully pointed out that nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor. I was unclear here: I meant "some people won't need them" more than "dislike them"] This sounds like when Jeff…

Acclimation is a huge factor: if you’re used to writing on a small laptop that will seem normal but few people won’t see a benefit moving to a larger display even if they don’t expect it. That’s one of the few durable research findings over the decades. Multiple monitors are slightly different: the physical gap means it’s not a seamless switch and not every task benefits.

> Multiple monitors are slightly different: the physical gap means it’s not a seamless switch and not every task benefits.

Probably why ultrawides are gaining popularity.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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As a web developer, I have Eizo ev2785 with 125% scaling and it worked fine so far.

From code maintenance perspective, I noticed that if you feel that there isn't enough space on your screen, it might be the right time to refactor and split it to the smaller chunks: extract another view partial, class etc.

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