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GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by Veen »

Koshkin wrote: post #492
bendergarcia wrote: post #454

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I don’t think it ever ends and I don’t think it needs to. We live the human experience which is subjective and we use language to communicate that experience. Until we become a singular entity we will always rely on language to externalize our world, because of that we should always think about the language we use to communicate and express ideas. Words shape the world we see and the world we experience.

The point is, there will always be something some people will find offensive. How long before "animal" or "robot" are found to have undesired connotations?

Robot is an excellent example: it originates with the Czech word robota, which means forced labour or slavery.

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Post by trophycase »

coliveira wrote: post #520
lolsal wrote: post #343

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Why do you think this is specifically a 'western society' thing? Browse Japanese sites and online tools and there is just as much gamification and 'thrilling' graphics and animation - if not more. Github looks like a technical white-paper in comparison.

Modern Japanese culture is considered to be part of "western society", for better or worse.

Is it really though?

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Post by langitbiru »

jolmg wrote: post #460
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You don't really need to experience it to see how this one day might happen to you. Here is a recent example with RuboCop: https://github.com/rubocop-hq/rubocop/issues/8091 "Cop" suddenly became a problematic word and you can read the comments in that issue thread. Imagine you have some repo like "PinkKitty", and then someone blows himself up dressed in pink and pink becomes a symbol of Jihad or White Supremacy or wh…

Wow, Rails actually changed blacklist/whitelist to denylist/allowlist.[1] [1] https://github.com/rails/rails/pull/33681

Openssl changes black list to block list.

Interestingly, there is no consensus on what terms are the best to replace master/slave.

Django uses follower/leader. Drupal uses primary/replica. Openssl uses parent/child.

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Post by judge2020 »

awirth wrote: post #514
_fat_santa wrote: post #436

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Second this. With GH now letting you create Organizations with private repositories, it's starting to transform how I store core on GH. All of my "big" projects on GH have more than one repo, usually 2-5 depending on what all work needs to be done. Before GH allowed you to create private repos in orgs for free I had hundreds of repositories and had to name them like projectname-website. Now I create orgs for my bigge…

>With GH now letting you create Organizations with private repositories I thought this was always the point of Organizations..?

Previously, organizations only allowed creating public repositories, so they were limited to open source projects unless you paid $9/user/month. Now they enable free private repo creation for organizations, although many "business" features like protected branches still require the Team plan (now $4/user/month) https://github.com/pricing.

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Post by wmij »

I'm also in the GitHub as a tool vs. social app camp and have rarely if ever had the inclination to visit the daily trending page (cue Pete Davidson - "my bad"). One feature I do like though is to see what repositories get starred by people I follow.

One thing has left me wondering after reading the article, is what the algorithm has changed to if it used to be just most stars in the given time period? Does anyone have any insight in how the trending repos are ranked?

For example from the article:

> ... the notion that stripe-samples/subscriptions-use-cases, which has 13 total stars with exactly zero new stars today is the new JavaScript “hotness” is a joke.

I'm left wondering then how did that get to the top? Views? Clones? API requests? Something else like paid promotion? Or manual curation?

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Post by ricardobeat »

frankcaron wrote: post #374

Imo, Github has only been moving further in the right direction lately — and more social features ain't it, chief. The better value proposition lift from giving folks and teams more free private repos was huge, and the increasingly-prominent integration of Github into enterprise tools is facilitating (if not helping to force) the modernization of enterprise dev outside the software industry. I've never been a bigger…

Well, this is a clear disconnect in their audiences. What the author misses are aspects of open-source, what you like is making it better for the enterprise.

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Post by notriddle »

lqet wrote: post #288
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

Tangential: what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling"? I feel like western society as a whole is thinking more and more in terms of a six year old. For adults, there lies incredible satisfaction in mastering any but the most exploitative professions or jobs and fulfilling them dutifully, even if they are be no means "fun".

It's the same reason for buying ads.

If nobody does it, it would be fine. If everybody does it, then we're worse off than before. But if some do it, and others don't, then the ones who do it win big.

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Post by judge2020 »

moooo99 wrote: post #511
CraftThatBlock wrote: post #401

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As a Minecraft player, I agree. They let the teams run with more resources, and it has shown in both quality and features in both companies. GitHub recently has been killing in with features IMO

As a Minecraft player as well I disagree. They split the community into Bedrock and Java Edition players. Even very basic game and redstone mechanics differ between the engines. The Bedrock edition introduced paid resources which would never have been a thing in the Java edition. Instead of considering cross-play to support the amazing work the CraftBukkit/Spigot devs, they opted to create a new protocol and split th…

Minecraft already had a mobile app on a separate engine before Microsoft bought it, so this isn't necessarily something Microsoft is at fault for. They just turned it into "bedrock edition" to get it working on Windows and consoles in a cross-platform way, something that likely would have taken a lot longer for the Java edition to achieve.

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Post by soraminazuki »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #496
soraminazuki wrote: post #467

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> McArthur is revered as a god, over there While he's undeniably a famous historical figure in Japan, my impression is that the majority of Japanese people don't have any strong opinions about him. After all, how many people actually care so much about historical figures when they're busy watching cat videos on YouTube? But for the people who do have some interest, I assume many have mixed feelings on the matter, whi…

I'll have to hunt down the article that talks about it, but McArthur was actually "Emperor of Japan" for a few years, in everything but title. I had several people point out his office on the top floor of a building facing the Emperor's Palace (some of the priciest real estate on Earth), in hushed, reverential tones.

Yes, he did have a strong political influence during US occupation, and yes, there may be people who worship him, but I can guarantee that it's not the norm. I'm actually fluent enough in Japanese to know this.
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