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GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by peteforde »

malwrar wrote: post #329
peteforde wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what? Why would you drop what you're doing to check out something you don't need to know exists? I'm not trying to be an asshole: focus is both incredibly hard and the only way to build great things. There are a countless number of things you're better off doing than checking out new random shit. Those people have already had their success. What are you bringing?

I haven’t participated in this trend-hunting behavior the author describes, but it sounds like it has the main appeal of HN—see new ideas that other people with a similar mindset are talking about. There’s educational and entertainment value to that, and while you’re right time is better spent grinding on projects it certainly sounds appealing to have a window into stuff other people are working on that is also mildl…

Fair enough. I'll accept this. :)

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by whatshisface »

jpxw wrote: post #380
bluntfang wrote: post #364

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Do you not consider Japanese to be Western? I mean, America literally rebuilt the moral, ethical, and political environment after dropping the bomb.

Have you ever been to Japan?

Japan is twice as far from California going East as it is going West. The parent must be using that definition. ;)

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by vxNsr »

bluntfang wrote: post #367
Zenbit_UX wrote: post #358

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Oh wow, that was hard to read and I only made it through the top 10 comments. Getting brigaded because some people are over sensitive must be a horrible feeling.

I've read that thread a few times and I see the people requesting the change doing so in a calm, reasonable manner. The only non-productive posts I see are from people who are vehemently and acerbically against it.

That's false in the first 10 comments

> emilyst commented 11 days ago I live in a country with a real dictator (although not on paper), unchecked police that's just an instrument in the hands of the government, and while no one here has any fondness of the Bulgarian police as an institution or our cops, I don't have any issues with the words "police" and "cop".

"works on my machine"

Additionally I haven't seen a single comment that is "acerbically against it" just calm people making reasonable arguments to not virtue signal. Especially in a way that doesn't even make sense.

When people complain about the OSS community and github this is what they mean. A bunch of rando's who had nothing to do with a project chiming in with breaking changes bec of their feelings. It really is a great example of what the GP is talking about.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by shankun »

Thanks for the feedback on this. We are rebuilding Explore and improving the feeds on it soon, and would love to chat with you if you’re interested. Drop me a line (shankuniyogi at github.com).

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by cushychicken »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool, though.

Yeah, seeing the headline of this article made me think of how I've never heard a carpenter exclaim what fun it is to use a cordless drill.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by zackees »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

It was fun in the same way hacker news is fun. It has a trending section of relevant information.

It's clear that Github has changed the trending section to push api's of the big players.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by thanatropism »

lqet wrote: post #288
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

Tangential: what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling"? I feel like western society as a whole is thinking more and more in terms of a six year old. For adults, there lies incredible satisfaction in mastering any but the most exploitative professions or jobs and fulfilling them dutifully, even if they are be no means "fun".

(I) There's still a relative scarcity of developers at any skill (even if there's no shortage of class-N developers taking their shot at class-(N+1) work).

(II) I'm not a progressive politically, but Western Society has generally improved. Bigger McDonalds meals that make you fatter is "improved" too under the logic of the market. Because developers are relatively scarce, a greater share of this improvement goes to what they want (whereas in burger flipping, the share gone to better golf clubs for execs is comparatively larger).

(III) There's something about law enforcement that attracts a certain kind of personality. I was never drawn to LEO (as a cop, bail bondsman, mall security, anything) because I don't have these personality traits. The same goes for computer programmers. There's certainly a childish trait going on that isn't present in Mad Men's Don Draper (but then, who knows if this guy existed); the web itself gravitates to a light, rounded, primary-colors visual language. I think in part there's a whiz-kid dynamic where many of us were much much more capable than adults in a moment of extraordinary technology shift (the introduction of the internet), whereas in previous generations adults knew better and youngsters wanted to emulate them. ("Never trust anyone over 30" has been around for a long time, but it was an angry sentiment, whereas now 40-year-olds are welcome to emulate whiz-kids if they still have it).

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by uchman »

chrisandchips wrote: post #299
lqet wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tangential: what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling"? I feel like western society as a whole is thinking more and more in terms of a six year old. For adults, there lies incredible satisfaction in mastering any but the most exploitative professions or jobs and fulfilling them dutifully, even if they are be no means "fun".

TBF, I don't think the author is saying that Github needs to be fun, but rather that it used to be and now isn't. It's lost a nice quality that it had.

I think the headline differs (perhaps for traffic). The post seems to discuss concerns about the discovery/trending feature - how developers "discover" new code.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by ersii »

jeromegv wrote: post #382
bluntfang wrote: post #373

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I don't understand why I'm getting downvoted. Is what I am saying incorrect?

Yes. First you attribute what Japan is to how the US rebuilt it, when in fact this society has thousands of years of history before the US. Sure we can't deny US influence after WW2 and how integrated they are in the global economy, that doesn't make it a westernized country.

Not to be annoying, but can't this be said about most places? Like continental Europe.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by gilbetron »

xxs wrote: post #315
sascha_sl wrote: post #297

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Or, you know, you could just not name your things master/slave and outright mention you do not take contributions if you do not care about doing that right either?

next would be the red-black trees or some utter nonsense.

Literally read a post about some terminology that used red/green in them, and how that was biased against the colorblind. Not that some interface used the colors red/green, but merely the terminology used the words. As a red/green colorblind person ... words fail me at the stupidity of that.
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