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GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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The modern version is tags, but they lack good sorting/viewing for tags

Not wanting to start a discussion about graphs vs trees for organizing, but in my opinion simple folders are great to fulfill basic needs. I cannot imagine a book having no table of contents and just a list of tags with numbers indicating relevant page numbers. That is just dumbing yourself down in favor of machine classification or search algorithms while a simple solution exists for this problem for higher order cl…

With limited entries of text or code you can just have them all on one page. Slightly more requires a folder or category system. If you have even more you need tags you should also keep the categories (everything must sit in a single category), If you have even more you need categories, tags and search. Trying to use one of those for the wrong volume just creates clutter.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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When I started using it it was free private repos and CI minutes. Whilst GH has duplicated these features very recently, they are still things that are at the core of gitlabs offering, so are generally higher quality and better supported. Gitlab is also open source, which lets me mirror their repo locally in case they die or remove a feature I use. Oh, and gitlab isn't systematically racist, which is always a persona…

Racist?

They're probably referring to a code-of-conduct document which has been attributed to GitHub, although I believe the document is (was?) actually maintained by the TODO Group, of which GitHub is a member.

https://todogroup.org/members/

Discussion of the code-of-conduct:

* https://github.com/dear-github/dear-github/issues/107#issuec...

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19162683

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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For me, the question is not whether or not GH was fun and if I checked trending before (I did not, I'm the type of person who does not jump into projects in early stages).

If the trending page has been an essential way for projects to gain traction, then we all have been benefiting from it. If this change disrupts that flow, then we should all oppose it, no matter if we used it directly or not.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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post #101

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Not wanting to start a discussion about graphs vs trees for organizing, but in my opinion simple folders are great to fulfill basic needs. I cannot imagine a book having no table of contents and just a list of tags with numbers indicating relevant page numbers. That is just dumbing yourself down in favor of machine classification or search algorithms while a simple solution exists for this problem for higher order cl…

Depends on a book type I suppose. Most have "index" section, which is just a list of tags. In recipe books I find it more useful than ToC actually.

Al entry should go in a single category, chapter or folder. The index should provide a useful overview. Tags you may have in any amount. More is usually better.

A tag with a single entry is useful. Chapters should never have a single entry.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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post #82

Please don't ruin something that works fine by adding unnecessary crap. The only thing Microsoft has to do, is to take a good look at GitLab so they know what they absolutely NOT should do.

Hey efiecho, Community Advocate from GitLab here! I'm sorry to hear that you are not a fan of our actions and/or decisions.

Can you please dive into specifics a little bit and explain what parts of GitLab could be improved and what are some high-level things that you don't particularly like?

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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I'm not sure what you're referring to, it's very easy to run an Action after each push? on: push: branches: - "**"

"Proper" CI/CD support was only added after users complained that Github Actions are too complicated to use for CI/CD, see: https://github.blog/2019-08-08-github-actions-now-supports-c...

It's really hard to understand what you're trying to say here. I use actions a lot. There is no distinction between actions and CI/CD here. The context of this blog post is a set of features that were added to actions (during the beta!) to better support CI/CD workflows. There is no CI/CD "shortcut", like you say, bolted on to actions.

The alpha was rougher (and completely different) but that's why it was called an alpha!

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Their abrupt cease of support for mercurial damaged it beyond repair for me and many others. They didn't even offer to migrate stuff with the click of a button, people started writing scripts to migrate, and while you are migrating, why not to GitHub which in the meantime also gained free private repositories?

> Their abrupt cease of support for mercurial damaged it beyond repair for me and many others. I'm not the biggest Atlassian fan, but they posted in August last year, gave 10 months notice and cited that less than 1% of new repos being created are using mercurial as their primary reason for doing so. If you cared about a project, almost a year is plenty of time to move it. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to…

It was more like a community and they destroyed it. Less than 1% of new repos were mercurial (what a surprise with zero mentions of mercurial anywhere except small text and zero marketing and they didn't even have it in their self-hosted product), sure, but existing repos were the problem. Some abandoned ones are lost forever. At least archive them, offer a tar download, anything... People had to parse the issues, people had to parse discussions, all the settings, access rights... I think after a year they could put everything in archive mode, but no, they deleted it with no easy export.

That's not OK and I'm clearly very, very angry as a former user.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Github's a work tool, not somewhere you go to have fun. This is a weird article because its main point is about the 'Trending page', which is something I've never heard of in the last 10 years of using github heavily. I'm vaguely aware there are some social features of github (you can apparently star repos, for instance) but I'd assume hardly anyone uses that stuff...

It just seems that the author is basically just whining about not being on the "trending" page any more.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

I kind of do have "fun" with GH. I follow people and see what repos they have starred, or code/issues they're working on. I also follow repos and check the source code that's being committed from time to time. Just for fun, to learn new stuff. The "Explore repositories" option did help me to find a couple of interesting repos. I feel that at some point GH decided to distance themselves from the social aspect of the p…

Cannot agree more on this.

There are two sides to github consumption - active and passive.

On passive side - we are happy to stick to basics of git on CLI / IDE and get the job done of a version control. And the site is usually to configure CI/CD and so on.

However on active consumption of open source - it is all about discovery of repos relevant to tech you are into and people behind them. It is so amazing to go and find a good committer profile and see what repos he follows.

And the new github trending is simply axing their own feet here.

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