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Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by ootachi »

ebiester wrote: post #125
SeanDav wrote: post #117

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Disclaimer: I am a Firefox Fanboi At work I can only use Firefox or IE so no brainer there - I use Firefox. At home I use Firefox but generally have Chrome open to play the odd Facebook game. The thing that puzzles me is I really don't notice any difference in performance between Chrome and Firefox and never have. I have a 4mb internet connection at the moment but noticed nothing different when I had 8. The only reas…

If flash crashes, it only crashes out one tab. That's the killer feature for me with chrome.

Firefox has had plugin isolation for Flash since 3.6.4 on Windows, and Firefox 4 brings that to all platforms.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by niels_olson »

gcr wrote: post #121
pldpld wrote: post #106

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Why is title bar there? I was hoping they'd push the tabs up into the title bar like Chrome and give us more screen space.

Maximize. It puts the tabs in the title bar when you maximize.

this should be shipped on be default.

edit: "this" appears to be as yet undefined. Unless ... can someone point me to whatever "maximize" is?

edit: FF4 does not behave as you describe on my WinXP box at work.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by mirkules »

I am so glad they got rid of the link preview in the URL bar (like they had in the RCs) and instead put in on the bottom left.

Usually, I have tabs open that change their title when something happens (e.g. Gmail Inbox(1), or Facebook), and those catch my attention from the corner of my eye. However, having the URL preview when hovering over a link go into the URL bar on top also catches my attention, and distracts me from my current workflow.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by electrum »

mbrubeck wrote: post #19
d0m wrote: post #2

Lets say I'm a chrome user (and loving it), is Firefox4 worth a try? What are the main differences from the last version?

* Faster startup, more responsive, faster JavaScript with the new Jaegermonkey JIT. * New, less cluttered UI. * Built-in sync of bookmarks/tabs/history/passwords, fully encrypted on the client (unlike Chrome's sync which encrypts passwords only). * Sync your bookmarks, tabs, history, passwords, and form data to Firefox for Android! See also this thread for answers from various members of the Firefox team: http://www.…

Does it finally store passwords in Keychain?

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by Estragon »

giu wrote: post #38

I started using Firefox again the day I heard about the 4.0 Release Candidate, and thought I could give it a another try after it failed to convince me the few times I tried to use it in the past. I was pleasently surprised. The browser's way faster; launching it doesn't take that much time; the UI is way more responsive; and all the add-ons I've been using in the past are compatible with 4.0 (Web Developer, Firebug,…

  > The browser's way faster;
That's awesome. Maybe I can go back to using firefox instead of chrome.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by SoftwareMaven »

gecko wrote: post #88
icegreentea wrote: post #25

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I've been using FF4 beta since B3... does anyone actually use the panorama/tab grouping thing? I find its performance really poor and kinda frustrating, especially since I've been using add-ons that provide similar functionality for a while.

I use it incredibly heavily, in the same way that I use virtual desktops. I have a tab group for work, a tab group for play, a tab group for documentation. Makes it very easy to quickly jump in and out of large collections of tabs without having a completely unusable tab bar like Chrome does.

I use FreshStart (an extension) for that in Chrome.

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Post by primigenus »

rufugee wrote: post #73
famousactress wrote: post #31

I've been on the FF4 beta for some time (the web app we work on is currently only supported on firefox). My honest assessment? FF4 is a huge improvement over FF3, specifically in terms of performance. It's still not Chrome though. Firebug works great in it (better than it does in FF3). So yeah, if you've been using FF3 for web-dev or to browse, you're about to get a major upgrade. If you're a Chrome user I don't know…

I don't know about you, but using Chrome has always given me this unsettling feeling that somewhere in Google's server farm, a machine is collecting everything I do and linking it to my other activity (gmail, gdocs, etc). It might now actually be going on, but it's hard for me to trust that it's not. I just don't like giving a behemoth like Google access to my complete internet history, even though the most harmful t…

I love giving everything I do to Google. It makes my daily life so much easier. Whenever I think about big corps and how I potentially may not trust them, I look around for people who actually work there. In Google's case, I find young, smart, cool people just like me who I trust not to be dicks and do things with my stuff I wouldn't want them to. They may mess up sometimes (I would), but I feel like I can trust them. The upsides from sharing all of this stuff with Google outweight the possible downsides for me.

Just wanted to post this since I feel like not enough people speak up to represent the not-so-paranoid crowd.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by weaksauce »

tvon wrote: post #76
weaksauce wrote: post #43

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I have been using chrome on a Mac and it felt so sluggish that I looked at ff4 betas to improve it. The ff betas feel much more responsive and the rc was even more so. It might have something to do with my mbp having trouble with the high res external monitor but anecdotally that's what I have seen.

It's not my main browser but I don't seem to have issues with Chrome on OSX, I'd suggest maybe purging your install (or at least it seems you're experiencing something unusual).

It was working ok until I got a 30" monitor. Then it became a choppy scroll and sluggish. Sluggish I can handle more than the scrolling.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by mbrubeck »

bretthoerner wrote: post #97
mbrubeck wrote: post #19

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* Faster startup, more responsive, faster JavaScript with the new Jaegermonkey JIT. * New, less cluttered UI. * Built-in sync of bookmarks/tabs/history/passwords, fully encrypted on the client (unlike Chrome's sync which encrypts passwords only). * Sync your bookmarks, tabs, history, passwords, and form data to Firefox for Android! See also this thread for answers from various members of the Firefox team: http://www.…

But aren't those all features of Chrome? Wouldn't a happy Chrome user want to know about something FF4 does that Chrome doesn't? It's very clear that 4 > 3.6, the features you listed are awesome ... they just aren't very appealing to a current Chrome user.

I was answering the question from above "what are the differences from the current version?"

As for the differences from Chrome, those are mostly the same as they've always been: Deeper extensibility, more customization points, and made by a non-profit organization dedicated to openness.

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