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GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

Insanity wrote: post #116
0x402DF854 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never had any "fun" with github either. I have had my account since 2013 and I've just learned about this "trending page" thing. Can anyone explain what's it useful for?

YMMV, but for me it does tend to show interesting projects that I otherwise would not have learned about.

This may also highlight one of the contrasts between my approach, and that of many of today’s engineers.

I am almost exclusively a Principal author of my work; with dozens of repos, and six figures of LoC (probably seven figures, if we include the code not available in public repos). I think I may have one forked repo; an embedded Web server library that I needed to tweak a bit to make work for my ffmpeg wrapper project.

This is not necessarily a good thing. By authoring my own code, I limit my scope. People who rely heavily on dependencies can have awesome results.

But they need to be very careful about the provenance and quality of these dependencies.

Dependency discovery is an important part of the vetting process. If we have choices, we don’t need to settle for second-best.

Also, I know that, for many folks, learning is a driver for repo discovery.

A lot of forks can indicate an inquisitive and open-minded approach to software development.

I do support it; but it is not how I work.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by callmekit »

deanclatworthy wrote: post #123
root_axis wrote: post #18

Hard pass on the suggestion to add more social network features. Such features are only conducive to drama and anxiety, we need less of that not more.

I didn’t really get the impression here that Jared wanted a social network. He just wanted a better mechanism for discovering good quality and interesting projects. Popularity is often one good signal.

Quote from the article: "I’d also be interested to see more social network-like features on GitHub".

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by RMPR »

smichel17 wrote: post #15
cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #3

>I’d also be interested to see more social network-like features on GitHub.I wouldn’t be opposed to a GitHub NewsFeed This would genuinely make me migrate off github permanently, both for personal projects and work. >project chat IRC/Slack/Discord already exist >or even DMs A new avenue for recruiter spam? No thank you.

> > project chat > IRC/Slack/Discord already exist Or even closer: gitter! Or just set up an irc/matrix room for your project.

> Or even closer: gitter!

I don't like their (electron) desktop app, I always end up using the IRC bridge if any

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by RMPR »

darkwater wrote: post #96
johnisgood wrote: post #48

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This would make GitHub Issues a bit more clean for sure. Lots of people use it for asking questions/for help instead of reporting actual issues/bugs.

As somebody who is guilty of this, my rationale is this: I went to slack/discord/IRC channels, asked for help and... almost no answer. Ask the same question in a comment of a popular issue or a new issue, and you get your answer (with some delay). The thing is that GH issues have replaces mailing lists/usenet for this kind of questions since the friction is way lower, it's async and the question goes to the right peo…

>The thing is that GH issues have replaces mailing lists/usenet for this kind of questions

Laughing in LKML

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by factorialboy »

kwistzhaderach wrote: post #99
Normal_gaussian wrote: post #76

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Me and the rest of the cool gang have been using GitLab for a while now.

What’s the difference for a personal user? Is gitlab better?

Well, depends. For self-managed solutions, GitLab is considered better.

While GitHub remains the "home" of open source (at least for cool, hip JavaScript projects).

Based on Hacker News threads, SourceHut is challenging GitHub in "coolness" too. ️

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by sammorrowdrums »

unixhero wrote: post #90
crispyporkbites wrote: post #83

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The one true answer

Yes, but why?

"They violently break all the recent frontend best practices. Where is the React or Vie, SPA architecture, tons of JS? There should be a federal law prohibiting making fast and simple UIs so that nobody will have concerns that the UI frameworks war leads us to great future." - viach https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20775549

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by nix23 »

patates wrote: post #118
random_visitor wrote: post #102

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No offence, but as someone who has only ever used github and gitlab, can you clarify why it's uncool?

Their abrupt cease of support for mercurial damaged it beyond repair for me and many others. They didn't even offer to migrate stuff with the click of a button, people started writing scripts to migrate, and while you are migrating, why not to GitHub which in the meantime also gained free private repositories?

>abrupt cease of support for mercurial

Yes exactly that, i think for bit-bucket it would have been less damaging NOT to support git but exclusively mercurial..and maybe bitkeeper ;)

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by wildpeaks »

flohofwoe wrote: post #128
Master_Odin wrote: post #117

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so does GitHub now, though there are some unfortunate limitations on PRs from forks

IMHO the gitlab CI service makes a lot more sense though, github has this weird concept of "Actions", and running CI/CD/... is some "shortcut" that was added as an afterthought because nobody could figure out how github actions are supposed to work for something simple as "please just run this script after each push".

I'm not sure what you're referring to, it's very easy to run an Action after each push?

    on:
      push:
        branches:
          - "**"

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by rapnie »

floatingatoll wrote: post #61

GitHub's time as the "cool" option has ended. It has matured and moved beyond the early adopter community, and presence on it is no longer a social signal of any significant relevance. I use GitHub to get work done, either on my projects or on others. I do not expect GitHub to innately provide me a degree of fun. That's the job of the projects, not of GitHub itself. Zoom exited the early adopter phase this past pande…

> What will GitHub's replacement "cool" service be?

Hopefully this will be ForgeFed [0] standards support, allowing forges such as github, github, gitea, sourcehut, notabug, etc. to interoperate via ActivityPub-based federation.

ForgeFed opens walled gardens and allows anyone to interact with any repo with a single account regardless on where it resides. It is still in early development stage, but received funding from NLNet which will be distributed among contributors working on roadmap items [1]. Additionally feedback is requested via the Feneas forum [2] so make yourself heard :)

[0] https://forgefed.peers.community/

[1] https://notabug.org/peers/forgefed/issues/87

[2] https://talk.feneas.org/c/forgefed

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by jaekash »

random_visitor wrote: post #102
jaekash wrote: post #93

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Well on a scale of coolness Bitbucket hits rock bottom, just like all things from Atlassian.

No offence, but as someone who has only ever used github and gitlab, can you clarify why it's uncool?

Atlassian products is a collection of poorly integrated and maintained applications each with serious issues which Atlassian refuses to fix. Atlassian is basically where things go to die.
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