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Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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Re: Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He went from 45 minute sleep to 6 hour sleep in the course of two days. That must have been the happiest days of your life!

> That must have been the happiest days of your life! We woke up and thought he had died. 10 minutes later everything was awesome.

I admit, I misinterpreted the sentence in the first read and was pretty shocked.

Re: Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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One unintended consequence of Covid19 related lockdown/work from home has been less commute and more hours to sleep. This is the most regular/high quality sleep i've had in years and I'm only now seeing how badly my normal sleep habits have been effecting me. Experimenting with any non-monophasic sleep pattern sounds exhausting and I'm afraid could have serious health impacts...would love to see the science/literatur…

Biphasic and triphasic are actually pretty normal, historically. Modern humans go to bed super late compared to our pre-electricity brethren; most people the world over would go to bed super early and have a “first” and “second” sleep, plus maybe an afternoon nap. You’ll notice this effect if you go camping. The moment the sun goes down you’ll crash much sooner than you would at home, and you might find yourself full…

Midnight used to be the middle of the night, hence the name. Now it's when you think "Oh, I'll just check twitter one more time"

Try telling a modern person you go to bed at 8 and wake up 4. They'll look at you like you're insane.

Re: Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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I fully agree that common sense and biology would certainly suggest that trying to stick to a regimented schedule of very specific sleep in small segments for a total of far below 8 hours is probably not as healthy as just getting a good nights sleep regularly.

That said the content of this piece doesn’t actually make any meaningful, substantiated argument to that effect. It kind of just lightly suggests that it’s probably not healthy and that social demands ruin the viability of polyphasic sleep anyways.

Everyone is different and I don’t think 8 hours is perfect but I would be interested to see a data-driven analysis of sleep patterns/length and long-term effects.

I have serious doubts that anyone getting less than 4 hours a sleep for a long period of time (weeks or more) is going to be firing on all cylinders, no matter the creative schedule they construct around it. But I’d be open to seeing meaningful data about it.

Re: Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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I tried this in college. I was doing 6 hours sleep per day (3 hours and 2 90 min segments with 6 hours awake time between them) Worked great while taking 12 credit hours over summer semester. But you end up being up when everyone else is asleep and sleeping when others are awake. Not great for social life but I did get 4.0 that semester.

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Used to work on a cement tugboat, 12 hour days 28 days a time. Unfortunately, it wasn't 12 on 12 off, it was 6 x 6 x 6 x 6. Meaning you could rarely get more than 4.5 hours of sleep at one time for the whole hitch. Depending on if the Captain had it out for you or what your route demanded, your sleep schedule could be even more irregular. It felt unsustainable to me. You'd come off the boat a zombie, and in just 12 d…

A tugboat made out of cement? A tugboat that delivers cement?

Re: Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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Everyman sleep schedule is much more sustainable than the uberman schedule.

It basically involves doing 3 hour core sleep and three roughly equidistant 25 minute naps. It's fairly easy to move the naps around as needed, once you're used to this.

There's also a variant of sleeping 4.5 hours, and then having two 25 minute naps.

The idea here is that each 25 minutes nap is essentially "replacing" the ~1.5 hour sleep you're giving up. There's roughly 70-110 minutes per sleep cycle, you're giving up a normal sleep cycle and then making up for it with a power nap. Your body is forced to get more efficient on grabbing the necessary deep sleep during the core sleep period.

It's supposed to take about 1 month to adapt.

I personally did this schedule for 10 days straight, without even using an alarm clock. But I started getting sick so I stopped.

Re: Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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Having recently experienced raising an infant, let me tell you, getting all my sleep in I was getting what this article suggests would be a viable polyphasic sleep schedule (total of 8 hours per 24 hour period, in chunks of 1-2 hours throughout the day and night whenever the baby slept), but I started hallucinating, got deeply depressed, and felt like I was losing touch with reality. All the symptoms vanished as soon…

Yea, I experienced that too with a new kid. I think I aged 5 years in that one year.

Re: Polyphasic sleep takes napping to the extreme

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Isn't human sleep naturally biphasic rather than monophasic? https://www.sciencealert.com/humans-used-to-sleep-in-two-shi...

If you count an early afternoon nap as the second phase, then yes. Otherwise, no. The whole medieval "second sleep" thing was probably a cultural thing and not a biological thing and it seems to have been limited to Europe during that time period.

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One unintended consequence of Covid19 related lockdown/work from home has been less commute and more hours to sleep. This is the most regular/high quality sleep i've had in years and I'm only now seeing how badly my normal sleep habits have been effecting me. Experimenting with any non-monophasic sleep pattern sounds exhausting and I'm afraid could have serious health impacts...would love to see the science/literatur…

> Experimenting with any non-monophasic sleep pattern sounds exhausting and I'm afraid could have serious health impacts I assume you speak for yourself. Biphasic sleep is not an abnormal occurrence and actually quite embedded in some non-anglo cultures (e.g. late afternoon opening times). Even when occurring naturally, it isn't extravagant to be aware of provisions so that nap time doesn't cause a naturally avoidabl…

> I assume you speak for yourself. Biphasic sleep is not an abnormal occurrence and actually quite embedded in some non-anglo cultures

I think you misunderstood the parent, and your reaction seems a bit confrontational. Surely the parent wasn't suggesting that a good night's sleep plus an afternoon nap "sounds exhausting" and "could have serious health impacts". They were talking about patterns that do not include a good night's sleep.

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