For black CEOs in Silicon Valley, humiliation is a part of doing business

Post by gfxgirl » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 1:27 AM UTC

js2 wrote: post #195

ibudiallo wrote: post #140

I usually choose to believe in "the honest mistake". It happens, two people walk in, one of them is the CEO, you assume it is the one on the right. And then when you realize it is a mistake, you apologize. We are only human. But when it happens over and over and over, you can't help but feel frustrated. You realize that people natural instinct is to think you are the subordinate. One second your are on stage at Techc…

I am Jewish. This gives me no insight into what it is to be black in America. But it does give me some insight into what it is to be a minority in America. I have an inkling of your loneliness and you have my profound sympathy. I wish everyone could experience what it is to be a minority in some, any, aspect of their identity to the extent that it might provide them some empathy for others. (I also never realized wha…

Post by Grustaf » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 1:30 AM UTC

golf1052 wrote: post #178

Grustaf wrote: post #113

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No normal parent has said anything even remotely like that in the last 30 years. Why is it so terrible to accept that men and women on average have different interests? Everyone knows that testosterone makes young men orders of magnitude more violent, why is it inconceivable that they could also be 4 times more interested in more mechanic play? It’s been observed even in almost newborn chimpanzees for Gods sake.

I think it's frustrating that people make claims to ideas that they are vaguely aware about. The vagueness can lead to repeating incorrect claims which I think is harmful, especially when discussing sensitive topics. > Everyone knows that testosterone makes young men orders of magnitude more violent You're using hyperbole but yes it's commonly understood that there's a link between testosterone and aggression, howeve…

Post by commoner » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 1:31 AM UTC

psweber wrote: post #222

ravenstine wrote: post #167

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> Her entire argument frames race relations within the context of the workplace which is problematic because her approach is coercive, not educational. It's also problematic because the workplace inherently has an underlying adversarial quality that can provide a never-ending supply of "microaggressions" and various forms of otherings that effectively sow more division than actually get non-whites anywhere. The autho…

> the workplace inherently has an underlying adversarial quality that can provide a never-ending supply of "microaggressions" Did you pick this idea up somewhere else or think of it yourself? I've not heard that concept, and it makes way too much sense.

Post by kgwgk » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 1:34 AM UTC

notahacker wrote: post #258

Grustaf wrote: post #113

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No normal parent has said anything even remotely like that in the last 30 years. Why is it so terrible to accept that men and women on average have different interests? Everyone knows that testosterone makes young men orders of magnitude more violent, why is it inconceivable that they could also be 4 times more interested in more mechanic play? It’s been observed even in almost newborn chimpanzees for Gods sake.

Is it conceivable that men and women have different average personal preferences [partly] for reasons which are linked to biology? Certainly, though nobody in this thread has suggested that can't be a factor. Is it plausible to assume that STEM fields and female participation is a case where stereotypes have very little effect? I think I'd need some pretty strong evidence for the idea stereotypes had little effect on…

Post by olivermarks » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 1:35 AM UTC

throwaway711477 wrote: post #211

quadrifoliate wrote: post #47

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As a less rhetorical answer, that might help some people if not the OP – as an Asian man in America, I have to worry about people making stupid jokes about my perceived culture, but usually not about getting the police called on me and being shot dead because I'm examining a BB gun that is on sale at Walmart [1] (sometimes, there are exceptions [2]). BIPOC puts this group of people (Black and Indigenous) as a separat…

Doesn't the "POC" term promote the idea that "people of color" have some sort of shared interests? Yet, is that always true? Person A is an upper-middle class Indian. They study software engineering at university in India. They immigrate to the United States and get a job working as a software engineer in Silicon Valley. Person B is a working class African-American. Nobody in their family has ever been to university.…