Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
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Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#2Wouldn't it be smart to switch all models to the 100kWh battery and thereby lowering the cost of unnecessary manufacturing complexity?
Isn't Tesla using the insight of the big O notation to reduce manufacturing complexity by keeping the BOM parts as low and as simple as possible?
Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#3Wouldn't it be smart to switch all models to the 100kWh battery and thereby lowering the cost of unnecessary manufacturing complexity? Isn't Tesla using the insight of the big O notation to reduce manufacturing complexity by keeping the BOM parts as low and as simple as possible?
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Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#4Wouldn't it be smart to switch all models to the 100kWh battery and thereby lowering the cost of unnecessary manufacturing complexity? Isn't Tesla using the insight of the big O notation to reduce manufacturing complexity by keeping the BOM parts as low and as simple as possible?
I think two things:
- The battery packs are already created of modules.
- battery manufacturing capacity might be the limit to growth of tesla as a company (cars, trucks, semis, utility power)
Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#5Since the model S is bumping up to 400 mile range right now, the smaller more energy-efficient model 3 would easily surpass it.
If 75kwh gets 322 miles, using dumb math gives 429 miles from 100kwh.
Now ludicrous... I wonder if the model 3's permanent magnet motors could handle it or would they need to be upgraded.
Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#6Since the model S is bumping up to 400 mile range right now, the smaller more energy-efficient model 3 would easily surpass it. If 75kwh gets 322 miles, using dumb math gives 429 miles from 100kwh. Now ludicrous... I wonder if the model 3's permanent magnet motors could handle it or would they need to be upgraded.
Model 3 motors could handle it. It’s what they swapped out the front motors on the S and X Raven powertrains for.
Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#7Wouldn't it be smart to switch all models to the 100kWh battery and thereby lowering the cost of unnecessary manufacturing complexity? Isn't Tesla using the insight of the big O notation to reduce manufacturing complexity by keeping the BOM parts as low and as simple as possible?
I think two things: - The battery packs are already created of modules. - battery manufacturing capacity might be the limit to growth of tesla as a company (cars, trucks, semis, utility power)
Cell manufacturing is currently the limit, especially for utility storage (which Musk said demand for is tremendous on the last earnings call), but Tesla has a new battery partner (China based CATL) that has the capacity necessary for the Class 8 Semi project.
Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#8The evidence for this is pretty weak right now. This "greentheonly" posted in February that Tesla removed the KWh rating from Model S/X battery labels though. Considering previous occasions with Osborne effect it'd be a smart way for Tesla to switch to newer batteries ahead of "Battery Day".
Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#9Since the model S is bumping up to 400 mile range right now, the smaller more energy-efficient model 3 would easily surpass it. If 75kwh gets 322 miles, using dumb math gives 429 miles from 100kwh. Now ludicrous... I wonder if the model 3's permanent magnet motors could handle it or would they need to be upgraded.
Model 3 motors could handle it. It’s what they swapped out the front motors on the S and X Raven powertrains for.
The front motors were added to the S and X for efficiency, not power.
Re: Tesla leak shows Model 3 with 100 kWh battery would have over 400-mile range
#10Wouldn't it be smart to switch all models to the 100kWh battery and thereby lowering the cost of unnecessary manufacturing complexity? Isn't Tesla using the insight of the big O notation to reduce manufacturing complexity by keeping the BOM parts as low and as simple as possible?
The internal-cost difference between 75kWh and 100kWh might be higher than the cost having two pack sizes