Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can ignore politics, but politics will not ignore you. What you're doing is burying your head in the sand, not avoiding.
Not entirely true. The essence of the libertarian platform is a political platform that tries its best to ignore you as an individual and let you be free. If libertarians were running things, you'd be left not entirely but largely alone.
After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
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Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand the position, but nowadays Twitter is full of #BlackLivesMatter posts, pride flags can be seen commonly, all while, to bring the two most currently visible things that haven't changed, the sex/race pay gaps are still there, and Black folk are still much more likely to die during police interventions. I guess I'm glad that the recognition and posts from CEOs is there, but posting rainbow flags and "Black…
"... and Black folk are still much more likely to die during police interventions." Care to link to a source?
In this study run by Harvard professor Roland Fryer, it was found that African-Americans are 20% less likely to be shot and proportionally more likely to see use-of-force against them.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w22399
I didn't find anything unbiased in my quick search on "likelihood of death during interaction."
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#243Is the US the only country on _earth_ where the media is so hellbent on propaganda for opening the borders? I can't think of another nation that does this. Not brazil, not bolivia, certainly not argentina, not spain, hell no japan lol, russia of course not. What makes the US so special in this unique problem with the media?
I think a lot of people just focus on the USA because it's an easy target.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#244(P.S. Much love for everyone inside Github who has thrown a shit storm or even quit over this shit)
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#245What a bummer that workers are publicly demanding this, and (presumably) seeking press attention on it. I'm no fan of ICE – a very large percentage of my friends in the US are immigrants, and I generally want my country to be a welcoming one. ICE has certainly committed unethical and probably illegal acts (probably true of most federal agencies). But to expect that a _federal agency_ will be denied service from a pri…
Whenever people make appeals like this, I wonder where it is exactly they think the political power to do so comes from. Historically, organized labor, like what’s happening at Github, is the what drives pressure for these kinds of changes and funds politicians and campaigns that implement them.
If you want a more immediate example, look at what is happening across the country right now with how cities are rapidly implementing changes to police in response to protests. If you actually want these changes, this seems exactly the kind of stuff to be doing.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#246What a bummer that workers are publicly demanding this, and (presumably) seeking press attention on it. I'm no fan of ICE – a very large percentage of my friends in the US are immigrants, and I generally want my country to be a welcoming one. ICE has certainly committed unethical and probably illegal acts (probably true of most federal agencies). But to expect that a _federal agency_ will be denied service from a pri…
So not to go all Godwin, but take an extreme example... Do you think a company in 1930s Germany should have ethically refused to provide software that was used in concentration camps? [In fact, there was a bit of "IT" then, used for such, but it was provided by IBM. But to make the analogy closer, let's imagine a hypothetically Germany company]. ("Companies" don't do anything by themselves, so I guess the question is…
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#247There are a few comments in here already decrying “politicization”. Guess what? Politics are interwoven in every aspect of our lives. You cannot choose to “avoid” them; even suggesting you can be politically neutral is a political stance that comes from a place of privilege, because only the privileged can avoid experiencing negative political consequences inside their bubble. Collaboration with ICE is collaboration…
>Guess what? Politics are interwoven in every aspect of our lives. Yes, but also companies exist literally only to make money. Companies can't exist without workers. Once a company finds itself in a position of conflict of interest between political views of workers and point of existence of the company - where contracts bring money... we're going to see interesting things. I wonder, who will break first? The company…
No, this is a misconception. Companies are a part of society and exists for several other reasons.
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#248One day a military company uses your product. Should you ban them?
Are all military companies evil? Or are weapons sometimes necessary?
Let’s say you ban them. Where do you draw the line? FBI? Police? Private investigators? Political parties with messages you think are hateful? With messages you just disagree strongly with?
Struggling with this.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#249What a bummer that workers are publicly demanding this, and (presumably) seeking press attention on it. I'm no fan of ICE – a very large percentage of my friends in the US are immigrants, and I generally want my country to be a welcoming one. ICE has certainly committed unethical and probably illegal acts (probably true of most federal agencies). But to expect that a _federal agency_ will be denied service from a pri…
Why can't you see this helping? Can you not see the rally that is happening in the corporate world in favor of the BLM movement? Even if corporations are posturing this stance with no real action at the moment, if bigger entities make real actions like this, it will catch on, and then it will trickle down to smaller businesses, and it will seep into lobbying circles. This has leaderships around the world forced to ma…
I would focua on what changes you can make with police forces before the second covid wave hits and pushes your issue to remember when status.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#250There are a few comments in here already decrying “politicization”. Guess what? Politics are interwoven in every aspect of our lives. You cannot choose to “avoid” them; even suggesting you can be politically neutral is a political stance that comes from a place of privilege, because only the privileged can avoid experiencing negative political consequences inside their bubble. Collaboration with ICE is collaboration…
Not a direct reply to your comment, but more of an adjacent one. > Guess what? Politics are interwoven in every aspect of our lives. You cannot choose to “avoid” them; But I do choose to avoid them in my personal life. A private company can do whatever the hell they want, whether I approve or not, it's their right. I also believe it is my right to not care about politics and continue moving forward with my own life.…
Some people will get affected by "politics" and, thus, must either be silent and suffer or start to care about politics.
I could be wrong and politics do impact you negatively and...you just don't care. That's a fair stance I guess, as long as you understand that by doing nothing you're essentially accepting that negative impact.
The parent comment touched on this, but wanted to add on - just hoping you're conscious of this truth