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Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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> Not on the analogue phone. And not on a consumer cell phone, either. > But you can easily get a TLS-enabled or ZRTP-enabled hardware or software VoIP phone. In theory, arbitrarily strong/usable encryption products can be marketed within the USA. In practice, from this list: A) Usable by non-experts (requires no software fiddling, hardware mix-and-match, or other wastes of time) B) Based on uncrackable/de-facto uncr…

How would a phone use an OTP? Would you send the key by carrier pidgeon to the guy every time you wanted to make a phone call? There's absolutely no way to get security without some sort of verification by the user. At the very least, you need someone to verify that the keys are correct "can you read me your phone's security serial?". It shouldn't be too hard to create affordable, usable phones based on PKC. The prob…

Public key cryptography seems like the wrong choice for phones, because it's relatively computationally intensive, and you'd want a phone to use the cheapest hardware imaginable. However, there is an alternative that would work.

You can use a symmetric cipher (AES is the current standard), and exchange keys via Diffie-Hellman key exchange, which is a method of securely generating a shared private cipher key over a public channel.

As I understand it, the primary advantage of public key cryptography is that it makes encryption and decryption asymmetric processes - i.e. everyone can encrypt something using your public key, but only you can decrypt it, because only you know your private key. In the phone case, the asymmetry would actually be annoying, because both parties want to send encrypted messages to each other, so you'd have to deal with two key pairs for each phone conversation.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman_key_exch... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard .

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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We need to elect politicians like Ron Paul Ran Paul has a pretty safe seat in the house. It is not practical to expect Americans to elect him president. I believe the OP asked for practical advice.

Maybe his son, Rand (Senator-KY), will someday run. He may stand a better chance.

Not really. Any political consultant worth his salt could easily paint Rand Paul as a racist, given his comments on the Civil Rights Act. (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/rand_paul...)

Just to be clear, I'm not saying I think Rand Paul is a racist. I'm just saying I don't think he has a chance in a national election.

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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One thing I see people saying on here is that people should care....and I do...but I don't know _what_ to do with it! Can someone show/tell me what I, an average person, can do? It feels a bit overwhelming and things like this point out how powerless we really are. I hope I'm wrong and there are things we can do...I just don't know what they are. EDIT - Asking two more specific questions: 1. What can we do technicall…

Whenever I mention libertarian principles on HN I get a mixed response, but this is one situation where we must demand individual rights. We need to elect politicians like Ron Paul who oppose big government intrusions into our privacy. This country is supposed to be a bastion of liberty and we go to war to "protect freedom" and "democracy" and yet we are less and less free every day. When we see articles about Chines…

The flip side of course being that libertarians generally oppose the kind of government regulation that could stop this heinous merger from further destroying an already non-classical market.

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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May I suggest that the current US political debate is virulently polarizing and unproductive? Perhaps the issue Good Governance vs Bad Governance would be effective/useful? (as opposed to the current axis of big vs small) As was said by Deng Xiapong "it doesn't matter if the cat is white or black.."

Big government has more chance for corruption because the system ends up growing ever-more complex. Parts the of the system that are useless never get culled, they just keep finding ways to retain minimal amounts of relevance, while attempting to maintain or increase their funding levels. It's harder to have 'good government' when there are more ways for it to fail.

Which is great and fine in a theoretical world. You guys just had your economy blow up. IT doesn't matter if its big or small. It matters if it works. Ignore size.

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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Use https as much as possible. I note that Hacker News still doesn't have https access...

Is there anything private on HN? The packet headers will still say that you went to HN, and when. The only thing it's blocking directly is knowing your username. That's pretty straightforward to figure out from correlating POSTs to the comment timestamps.

My password might be considered private.

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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Big government has more chance for corruption because the system ends up growing ever-more complex. Parts the of the system that are useless never get culled, they just keep finding ways to retain minimal amounts of relevance, while attempting to maintain or increase their funding levels. It's harder to have 'good government' when there are more ways for it to fail.

Which is great and fine in a theoretical world. You guys just had your economy blow up. IT doesn't matter if its big or small. It matters if it works. Ignore size.

Ok, so you determine that it isn't working. Then you try to figure out how and why so that you can fix the problem and you find out that it's death by a thousand cuts.

I'm not so delusional to think that there will be some magical shrinking of the government, but you seem to be telling me that it isn't a worthy goal, which I disagree with. You can have the goal of making the government work now while at the same time trying to trim away the useless pieces.

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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post #202

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Maybe his son, Rand (Senator-KY), will someday run. He may stand a better chance.

Not really. Any political consultant worth his salt could easily paint Rand Paul as a racist, given his comments on the Civil Rights Act. ( http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/rand_paul... ) Just to be clear, I'm not saying I think Rand Paul is a racist. I'm just saying I don't think he has a chance in a national election.

I suppose not caring at all about black people is not expressly racist, indifference and dislike are rather different, no?

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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One thing I see people saying on here is that people should care....and I do...but I don't know _what_ to do with it! Can someone show/tell me what I, an average person, can do? It feels a bit overwhelming and things like this point out how powerless we really are. I hope I'm wrong and there are things we can do...I just don't know what they are. EDIT - Asking two more specific questions: 1. What can we do technicall…

1. Donate to the EFF and the ACLU.

2. Encrypt everything. Or at least something randomly. Even the NSA will have a hard time cracking AES 256 when large amounts of traffic are encrypted.

Re: AT&T has a fiberoptic splitter copying our data to NSA

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Yes to Petition your government, contact your congressperson, and support the EFF. The problem with making yourself 'technically safe' is that it realistically leaves most non-technical people exposed. The only way to 'protect' everybody is to cure the cancer, not just your symptoms.

The problem with making yourself 'technically safe' is that it realistically leaves most non-technical people exposed. then lets make everybody safe technically. it's hard, but doable. if everyone ran tor and 10% of users ran tor relay, that should be a hell to track, no?

I think you missed the point of my comment. Though running tor or other technical solutions are possible, getting penetration into the non-techie world is very difficult.

You're proposing a technical solution to a legislative problem. Working with the law (constitutional or otherwise) creates the environment where you aren't trying to work around the issue or 'hide' from anybody.

Privacy laws are there for your protection. As another commenter mentioned, you wouldn't accept the gov't or private corporations reading your mail, e-mail shouldn't be any different.

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