After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
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Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#2I guess this is the reason lot of corporates try to stay out of politics. Because once you set a precedence then people will use that as to push their own political agendas. I personally don't like the slippery slope argument since it's very lazy and justifies inaction in many cases. But at the same time when I see news like this, I just wonder how long it will take two different subgroups trying push their own conflicting agendas and how the company should react in such a case.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#3I guess this is the reason lot of corporates try to stay out of politics. Because once you set a precedence then people will use that as to push their own political agendas. I personally don't like the slippery slope argument since it's very lazy and justifies inaction in many cases. But at the same time when I see news like this, I just wonder how long it will take two different subgroups trying push their own confl…
Slippery slopes are not always a fallacy, roughly the same way appeal to authority is not a fallacy when the authority is indeed an expert.
Relevant: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Kbm6QnJv9dgWsPHQP/schelling-...
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#4I guess this is the reason lot of corporates try to stay out of politics. Because once you set a precedence then people will use that as to push their own political agendas. I personally don't like the slippery slope argument since it's very lazy and justifies inaction in many cases. But at the same time when I see news like this, I just wonder how long it will take two different subgroups trying push their own confl…
Pretty much impossible to stay out of politics these days if you have a platform that can serve public content.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#5I would have thought that the workers at GitHub would know as much as anyone that restricting access to one Git service would have a negligible impact on ICE. The real impact would be on GitHub themselves, as they would lose any opportunity to help guide policy or technology at ICE or any other government agency.
It may feel better to watch and yell from the outside, and you may have the moral high ground in doing so. But change happens from the inside. We need more companies like GitHub working with agencies to reform their policies.
Also, change is slow. Protests are step one, but there are probably 235 more steps until change is realized. Slow and steady, my friends.
EDIT: To answer the questions about how a company influences policy. Companies influence policy all. the. time. Look at ALEC[1] look at PACs. Look at the fact that Microsoft is not going to be offering facial recognition tech until privacy protections are passed. Not saying ALEC is good, but it exists.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legislative_Exchange_...
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#6Is GitHub a hug part of what ICE ... does?
Personally I wouldn't want to work for a company actually detaining people, but call me terrible but I'm not sure I'd feel the same about letting them pay to host some code...
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#7Don't feed the political beast, because once fed, it's never enough.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#8give an inch and they'll burn down your house demanding a mile
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#9I guess this is the reason lot of corporates try to stay out of politics. Because once you set a precedence then people will use that as to push their own political agendas. I personally don't like the slippery slope argument since it's very lazy and justifies inaction in many cases. But at the same time when I see news like this, I just wonder how long it will take two different subgroups trying push their own confl…
Slippery slopes are not always a fallacy, roughly the same way appeal to authority is not a fallacy when the authority is indeed an expert. Relevant: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Kbm6QnJv9dgWsPHQP/schelling-...
> when the authority is indeed an expert.
can someone be a considered authority without being an expert.
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I am using authority from the example in wikipedia
"One example of the use of the appeal to authority in science dates to 1923,[20] when leading American zoologist Theophilus Painter declared, based on poor data and conflicting observations he had made,[21][22] that humans had 24 pairs of chromosomes. From the 1920s until 1956,[23] scientists propagated this "fact" based on Painter's authority"
Painter presumably was an expert. So not sure why you are saying why its ok if the person is an expert.
Re: After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract
#10I guess this is the reason lot of corporates try to stay out of politics. Because once you set a precedence then people will use that as to push their own political agendas. I personally don't like the slippery slope argument since it's very lazy and justifies inaction in many cases. But at the same time when I see news like this, I just wonder how long it will take two different subgroups trying push their own confl…
One side gets de-humanized and shown the door. I'll let you guess which side that is.
This is why I think good people prefer a-political companies. It is sad, that there are people who have commitments/families, and they are taken hostage by this.