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That is suprisigly low number. US has nation wide riots right now. If police or national guard did they work, there would be way more cases.

Where I lived the police did nothing about the riots while they trapped protestors then threw chemical weapons at them...

Look at Arab Spring, Kiev... 700 cases is very very low number in this situation. It could easily go to 100k deaths.

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#152

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I live basically in the CHAZ in Seattle, they haven't taken over anything. The police just abandoned the precinct building and left it unlocked and people are gathering peacefully to listen to other people speak. It's like a street festival or a farmer's market but with an explicit aim of stopping police from killing black people.

Ah what's the end game? They were forced by leadership to abandon the area. That wasn't their choice to abandon their post. What are your thoughts on the 300+ black people murdered in Chicago so far in the past year by gang violence? You think that a CHAZ in Chicago would help those lives? You think defunding the police would lead to less or more deaths there overall?

Police sure haven’t helped. Defunding and funding other areas probably helps reduce the murder rate.

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I consider police to be heroes. But that's not what we're seeing here. The sides here are decent folk (police and protesters) against the racists and the violent criminals (police and rioters and looters). And the police agree: "Three big California police unions release national reform plan to remove racist officers" https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/3-big-California... Their plan includes "a national data…

The police have never done anything for me, and I can't think of a time they've done anything for anyone I know. I don't really see how they are heros. I can't even think of things they regularly do that can be called heroic? I know they do some good stuff, but nothing that comes close to the level of "hero" in my opinion. Firefighters, EMTs, nurses, and doctors are all examples of actual heros, IMO.

Firefighters have never done anything for me, and I can't think of a time they've done anything for anyone I know. I don't really see how they are heros.

I can't even think of things they regularly do that can be called heroic? I know they do some good stuff, but nothing that comes close to the level of "hero" in my opinion. They squirt water on hot stuff? Cool.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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>It's important to be aware that what the media can be random, and media coverage is not always correlated with how important or prevalent a problem is. Oh cool, a guy on Hacker News cited a John's Hopkins article. Pack it up protestors, racism isn't real and cops aren't tear gasing reporters in the face!

Huh? I didn't say racism isn't real, and I also didn't say cops aren't tear gassing reporters in the face. GP questioned how a profession can exist when it makes so many deadly mistakes. I pointed out that there is another profession, medicine, which also makes lots of deadly mistakes. Some are accidental oversights, but you can also do some searches and find some really bad medical errors. [1] but you can find lots…

Why the hell are you using academic citations in an online comment thread!? And "what about"ing medical errors to cops murdering people?

Was one black classmate mean to you in elementary school and you've devoted your whole life to be able to smarm away racism on the internet

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

#155
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The fact that is even possible is insane. Imagine there being over 700 videos of pilots messing up in one month, 700 crane operator mishaps in a month, 700+ food poising by a chain in a month. The also imagine you believe there's no problem. This is Ba Sing Se levels of delusion for some people.

To be fair you are comparing an adversarial job with a cooperative one. A crane operator won't feel unsafe, or confronted by someone he calls hostile. This is no excuse whatsoever for the multitude of outraging problems in the system, but the comparison isn't straightforward.

I’ve worked in many adversarial roles, and I have never once shot a customer.

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It's worth noting hundreds of police officers lose their life a year in the line of duty: https://www.odmp.org/search/year and many more than that receive serious injuries, even permanent spinal damage: One cop was paralyzed from the neck down in Vegas protests: https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/06/14/police-officer-shot-... Retired police chief killed at 77 by looters in St. Louis: https://thehill.com/homenews/state…

It’s about 100 officers a year in the U.S. About half are homicides and the other half are car accidents on the job. It doesn’t rank in the top 10 most dangerous jobs (per capita) in the U.S. according to the BLS. The number of deaths will be much higher this year, at least double, due to COVID19 deaths. The job pays well and comes with a pension. It’s nearly impossible to get fired and if you do get fired, most offi…

honestly the whole "being a police officer is not even a dangerous job" is really non-intuitive, which probably means it's wrong. Being a police officer is a dangerous job, but through thorough training and institutional experience, they've managed to lean how to keep themselves safe in actively dangerous situations.

Landscapers and truck drivers never have to wrestle a large, non-compliant man into handcuffs or talk down domestic dispute that turned into a potential murder suicide.

Software engineers who sit on their computers all day and try to backseat drive on these issues should probably be dragged into the streets and set on fire.

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One of the threads that was eye-opening for me was Greg Doucette's (a lawyer in North Carolina among other things) ongoing Twitter thread with Pics/Video of police brutality as it relates to peaceful protesters/bystanders. It's currently at 500+ instances of police brutality. https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1272306977872453634

Those 500+ incidents are since May 30.

...and then there's the other tabs.

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Being a cop is less dangerous than being a pizza delivery driver, and pizza delivery guys don't get guaranteed pensions and a union to protect them when they purposefully beat the living crap out of someone because they had a bad day.

Pizza delivery driving is a dangerous profession because pizza delivery drivers are frequently racing to improve their tips and delivery numbers and drive dangerously, meaning they frequently cause their own deaths[0]: > Of course, when a pizza delivery driver is injured in a car accident, it is not usually an isolated event; other drivers and passengers are also involved. All too often, the accident is caused by the…

Gotta chase those Civil Forfeiture tips.
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