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Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by anonymoushn »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #26

I opened a couple of random ones. The first one was this link: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1270402748895412224 Which isn't an example of police brutality. The second one was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsTkAOe5UTE Basically a bunch of thugs attack random drivers. One of the thugs jumps into a random car, the car stops, police come, pull the thug out, he resists, they deal with him. I have zero…

In your second link:

At 0:16 a cop pushes Adam partially into the passenger window of an SUV, apparently hoping that he will fall out and be injured while the SUV is moving. When the SUV stops, Adam is mobbed by cops and beaten. The driver Bob (a victim of having a cop push someone into his window) is detained, his hands zip-tied. A bystander Charlie who doesn't seem to do anything is also zip-tied. At 1:43 a cop seems to spit in Adam's face and punch him while he's cuffed and being escorted by other cops.

Edited: In your first link:

If soldiers block enemy soldiers inside a 1-block length of street and use chemical weapons on them while preventing them from dispersing, it's a war crime. I don't really know why it should be fine for cops to do it to randoms.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by boomboomsubban »

codygman wrote: post #43
ars wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just be a bit cautious with lists like this: Last time lists like this were posted, most of the links were false accusations, or just someone claiming something, with no way to know the truth. (I spent some time trying to verify until I realized there were far more false accusations than true, and then I give it up as pointless.) Of course even one instance of brutality is too much, but take numbers like this which a…

> Last time lists like this were posted, most of the links were false accusations, or just someone claiming something, with no way to know the truth. What last link posted consisted mostly of fakes? I must have missed it.

Looked at their post history, it's this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23373619

A list of three, one of which is a video of a cop slashing a tire, another is a photo of another car in the lot with slashed tires, and the third is a journalist who had to pass the National Guard to find his tires slashed.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by fisherjeff »

aganame wrote: post #45
kingofpandora wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically a bunch of thugs attack random drivers. One of the thugs jumps into a random car, the car stops, police come, pull the thug out, he resists, they deal with him. I have zero sympathy for the thug. Even when one cop punches "the thug" in the face while he's being walked away while handcuffed?

What would you have done in that situation?

If you can’t not punch a handcuffed suspect, then you don’t deserve to be a cop. Simple.

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Post by hornetblack »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #26

I opened a couple of random ones. The first one was this link: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1270402748895412224 Which isn't an example of police brutality. The second one was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsTkAOe5UTE Basically a bunch of thugs attack random drivers. One of the thugs jumps into a random car, the car stops, police come, pull the thug out, he resists, they deal with him. I have zero…

First one involves two groups of police sorrounding a group of protesters and tear gassing them. I don't how that can be considered a valid dispersal method (They could not disperse there were police on both sides) Also allegly firing Pepper balls above the waist which is incorrect usage. (There are marks on the walls well above head height)

If you made it practically impossable to disburse when using what are basically torture devices in that situation I don't see how it isn't brutality.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by DeonPenny »

The fact that is even possible is insane. Imagine there being over 700 videos of pilots messing up in one month, 700 crane operator mishaps in a month, 700+ food poising by a chain in a month. The also imagine you believe there's no problem.

This is Ba Sing Se levels of delusion for some people.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by ViViDboarder »

chrisco255 wrote: post #38

It's worth noting hundreds of police officers lose their life a year in the line of duty: https://www.odmp.org/search/year and many more than that receive serious injuries, even permanent spinal damage: One cop was paralyzed from the neck down in Vegas protests: https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/06/14/police-officer-shot-... Retired police chief killed at 77 by looters in St. Louis: https://thehill.com/homenews/state…

I disagree. The protests and the narrative around them are about highlighting injustice.

In those examples, I’m fairly confident the perpetrators will be arrested and likely justice will be served. In the first two, arrests have already been made and they’ve been charged. Meanwhile, those that murdered Breonna Taylor are still free despite the fact that the police know exactly who the perpetrators were.

We want justice for all.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by sixQuarks »

s3cur3 wrote: post #28
dannypgh wrote: post #11

It's really just one bad apple. Unfortunately the apple is the police and it's everywhere and armed.

“Okay, so there are a few bad orchards...”

okay, so there's a couple of deep genetic defections with apples themselves.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by bpodgursky »

Titanous wrote: post #44
alex_young wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Policing is not a dangerous job. According to the FBI, which publishes the data in the Uniform Crime Reports, from 1980–2018, an average of 85 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed per year. In 2018 there were 686,665 police in the US.

This is correct. In fact, landscaping and groundskeeping workers (among many other categories) suffered more fatalities than police officers in 2018 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics: https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0326.htm

Sorta meaningless unless you cross it against the actual count of people in the occupation (estimates in this list https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/emp-by-detailed-occupation.ht...)

I don't really want to get into the actual meat of the argument, but please use per-capita death stats so the numbers are actually comparable.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by ViViDboarder »

aganame wrote: post #45
kingofpandora wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically a bunch of thugs attack random drivers. One of the thugs jumps into a random car, the car stops, police come, pull the thug out, he resists, they deal with him. I have zero sympathy for the thug. Even when one cop punches "the thug" in the face while he's being walked away while handcuffed?

What would you have done in that situation?

I don’t know. Probably not batter someone. And, if I did, I’d likely be arrested and charged.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by ViViDboarder »

aganame wrote: post #49
fzeroracer wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being massively disingenuous in the second example. A 'bunch of thugs' means one person who was being chased by a group of officers and beaten while he's trying to run. He's trying to get into a car to escape (admittedly a bad idea), then when they catch up to him they beat him up, throw him to the ground AND arrest the driver. The fact that you chose to take the video so far out of context means you're not he…

You are probably also taking it out of context. You have no idea what has happened in that neighborhood in the last year or decade. You have no idea what those perps and officers have experienced. Right?

The last year or decade are irrelevant in terms of the law.
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