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Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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It would be good to stick these videos somewhere where they can't be taken down.

Suggestions? It seems like anyone that is able to provide a service to host video would be just as likely to remove them for the same pressure. P2P torrent with enough people seeding them to make it impossible to remove them is the only thing that comes to mind.

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I know politics isn't the usual HN topic, but I think this goes beyond politics at this point. Until I saw this list, I had no idea how out of control this situation has gotten here. I'm saddened for my country and hope that this can be a turning point for all of us.

Just be a bit cautious with lists like this: Last time lists like this were posted, most of the links were false accusations, or just someone claiming something, with no way to know the truth. (I spent some time trying to verify until I realized there were far more false accusations than true, and then I give it up as pointless.) Of course even one instance of brutality is too much, but take numbers like this which a…

If you browse the list and feel that it is worth sounding an alarm for being fake, then feel free to do that. I don't think that's what you are doing though, and just sounding a Chicken Little alarm. The list is pretty chilling with video evidence. Really hard to fake this stuff.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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post #16
post #2

I know politics isn't the usual HN topic, but I think this goes beyond politics at this point. Until I saw this list, I had no idea how out of control this situation has gotten here. I'm saddened for my country and hope that this can be a turning point for all of us.

Just be a bit cautious with lists like this: Last time lists like this were posted, most of the links were false accusations, or just someone claiming something, with no way to know the truth. (I spent some time trying to verify until I realized there were far more false accusations than true, and then I give it up as pointless.) Of course even one instance of brutality is too much, but take numbers like this which a…

These are nearly all videos which are pretty self-explanatory (and horrifying).

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Most posts on this subject keep getting pushed off of the front page by mods. It's pretty sad to watch, especially with the number of posts about coronavirus. They're both major issues, but one is nerdier than the other so it gets to stay.

In fairness, it's got a lot of upvotes, and there's really no words that can convey what this shows.

And it's already off of the front page.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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post #3

It would be good to stick these videos somewhere where they can't be taken down.

Suggestions? It seems like anyone that is able to provide a service to host video would be just as likely to remove them for the same pressure. P2P torrent with enough people seeding them to make it impossible to remove them is the only thing that comes to mind.

Yeah I was thinking a torrent too - seems like the only way to guarantee it stays up.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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I opened a couple of random ones. The first one was this link:

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1270402748895412224

Which isn't an example of police brutality.

The second one was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsTkAOe5UTE

Basically a bunch of thugs attack random drivers. One of the thugs jumps into a random car, the car stops, police come, pull the thug out, he resists, they deal with him. I have zero sympathy for the thug.

If you want to create a list for this cause, at least make it good, make it solid. Don't fill it with random junk to inflate the numbers.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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post #2

I know politics isn't the usual HN topic, but I think this goes beyond politics at this point. Until I saw this list, I had no idea how out of control this situation has gotten here. I'm saddened for my country and hope that this can be a turning point for all of us.

Is it out of control though? The police has 700K members in the US. Millions of daily interactions with people of all kinds. All you could find is 400 cases from ALL the years. And I guess the claim is brutality wasn't justified in every single case. In reality there are not 400 cases on that list, and in many cases the violence was justified.

I'm not saying the police doesn't do wrong, they absolutely do. We have examples of rapes, unjustified murders and beatings, entrapment. They are extremely rare. I think last year the police in the US killed 9 unarmed black men and 21 unarmed white men.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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I opened a couple of random ones. The first one was this link: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1270402748895412224 Which isn't an example of police brutality. The second one was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsTkAOe5UTE Basically a bunch of thugs attack random drivers. One of the thugs jumps into a random car, the car stops, police come, pull the thug out, he resists, they deal with him. I have zero…

I had the same experience. It was a video of a riot line of police with shields walking down the street, and people shooting fireworks at them. I welcome any content that shows events that the media isn't providing. But if someone is going to curate a list like this, don't sell it as something it's not.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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I opened a couple of random ones. The first one was this link: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1270402748895412224 Which isn't an example of police brutality. The second one was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsTkAOe5UTE Basically a bunch of thugs attack random drivers. One of the thugs jumps into a random car, the car stops, police come, pull the thug out, he resists, they deal with him. I have zero…

You're being massively disingenuous in the second example. A 'bunch of thugs' means one person who was being chased by a group of officers and beaten while he's trying to run. He's trying to get into a car to escape (admittedly a bad idea), then when they catch up to him they beat him up, throw him to the ground AND arrest the driver.

The fact that you chose to take the video so far out of context means you're not here to argue in good faith at all. Said list isn't for people such as yourself, where no level of evidence could convince you.

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